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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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to fate to 1985 with jimmy church on the

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game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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masses

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today's thursday thursday may 7

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2020.

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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128 days into the new year

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only 238 days left

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united

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states hither and

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tether and to and fro back and forth up

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and down

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east and west north and south far and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg ra the planets

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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crafting everybody how you doing

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i love saying that because i mean it

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how you doing

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i like the david bowie i like the david

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bowie

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man i can quote every line

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from every character and every scene at

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every moment

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in labyrinth i do it with pride

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just like that i get all tangled up in

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my own cables yeah labyrinth

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whew man that's that's a good gift right

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there that's a good gift

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what a great movie great posters great

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dvd

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great special features if you've gotten

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the anniversary dvd

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and the making of the music

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oh man what a great movie all right

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all right it's thursday it has arrived

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it is thursday it is fader night with

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open lines all night long

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the caller yes rita you are correct

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that won't be happening tonight

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twitter at 747-228-2051 church radio

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that's the easy thing to do at j church

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radio hashtag f2b is the sandbox

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on twitter f2bq

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for everybody out there that is fade to

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black questions

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and uh tonight i wanted to do an ama nah

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we can't do it tonight so uh maybe we'll

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do it next thursday

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uh crazy week on the show we got a lot

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to talk about tonight

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and i've got a couple of surprises

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coming up

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so get ready for all of that tonight it

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is fader night my favorite night of the

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and which has turned into it's morphed

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there's no question about this it is now

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established fact fader night on fade to

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black is one of the greatest nights

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on all of talk radio anywhere in the

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that's that's it that's that's it that's

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what fader night is

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just an exciting end and i am able to

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and i had the craziest day today by the

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way

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i'll see if i can get to all of that and

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if i stop rambling right now maybe i

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will

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get to it so you can email jimmy

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jimmychurchradio.com we have one two

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chat rooms open one at

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spreaker one over at kgra the planet of

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course you if you're over on youtube you

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guys are going crazy over there hello to

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everybody

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on youtube one of these nights i will do

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a youtube show i will just hang out with

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everybody on youtube

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and and we'll go back and forth and then

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uh a facebook uh night where i'll just

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hang out with everybody on facebook and

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enter interact there then we'll do

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uh which we do every night but i'm

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talking about the twitter

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feed of the broadcast and and the

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it is thursday

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special day

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um i know that uh i'm going into open

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lines there's that part of it so i'm

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there's a lot of the show prep that i

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don't have to normally do

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uh when you have a guest on i don't have

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to do any of that i don't have to sound

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check

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and research and and

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don't have to do any of that tonight

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makes for an exciting day

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and here i am i'm ready got my river

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and uh it's open lines all night long

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different for this weekend i don't have

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coast to coast a.m ah

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so this is it this is our friday

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i get to just relax and and know that i

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gotta work for the next three days

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on this show so there you go all right

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oh man a couple of things email is jimmy

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lots of breaking news today project blue

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uh oh did you hear the news

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all of all of those fans out there

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are left with nothing but questions

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this is the thing this is uh the show

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malarkey who's great by the way

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who was blown to bits in an underwater

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explosion it was a true cliffhanger

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they have other ideas

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and ratings don't matter and opted not

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nobody knows how network television

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nobody knows many have speculated men

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have died countries have fallen

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for the for the knowledge of why

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their estimate and findings were

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today in the journal geology

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absolutely not the earth grows by weight

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of extraterrestrial material every

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elon musk and his partner

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baby naming are about to come into play

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the 26 alphabetical characters

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of the english language according to the

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no numbers allowed not to mention

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the elvish characters ae

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which is the elven shorthand of a.i

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there you go what is

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man too much money just clouds

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your you're thinking i mentioned

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earlier this week about the day i took

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my driving test

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when i was 16 years old and i wanted to

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go back and

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and and just tell you guys what happened

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i don't want to leave you hanging

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this is what happened on that

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morning uh my dad

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was away on a business trip

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my brother kevin

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was upstairs in bed sleeping

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summer vacation and i'm going to guess

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and say

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he was well it doesn't matter but he's

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upstairs sleeping

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and uh my mom and i

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were going to take the car uh over to

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the dmv

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and so i could take my driving test and

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get my driver's license

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and so my mom had this idea

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not to start the car in the garage

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which is directly underneath my

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brother's bed

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and to put the car in neutral

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and back it out of the garage and then

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start it up outside

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this was my mom's idea by the way

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so we're pushing

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i'm in the driver's seat i got one foot

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on the ground

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steering wheel doors open and i'm

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backing the car

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up and it's going so all of a sudden it

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just kind of starts rolling it takes off

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and the edge of the door that is open

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catches the molding on the side of the

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garage

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the wooden molding and rips it off the

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my mom's standing and my mom's pushing

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the car from the front

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my mom i'm looking at my mom she's

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looking down

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and the whole frame of the garage is

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waking up the house and all of the

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neighbors on the block

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and uh so much for that i do

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remember this though i remember my mom

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not exactly telling my dad the truth

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my dad had to come home after his

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business trip and replace the molding

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and paint everything on the house

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and i can't remember exactly what was

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said

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all i'm gonna say is i didn't get in

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trouble so that's what happened

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and also i want to get to this before i

347
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move on

348
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uh if that was just a crazy day mom

349
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man i hope dad isn't listening right now

350
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he's probably just shot her look

351
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what what really happened you said it

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was

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today

354
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i had a poltergeist event in my garage

355
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almost let me tell you what happened it

356
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cleaning out the garage breaking down

357
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boxes

358
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garbage man's coming tomorrow got to

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fill up the recycle bin and do some

360
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things but

361
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we were building up with empty boxes in

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the garage and i was getting lazy and

363
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today was the day so i'm breaking it

364
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down doing all that

365
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and it's hot outside drinking iced

366
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coffee

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uh phones and things i'm running around

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sweating

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and i have to get inside uh

370
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there's some other things that were

371
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going on so anyway

372
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as i'm walking through the garage

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we have a stack of folding chairs

374
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there's like 16 folding chairs

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metal that that are to my right the last

376
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folding chair decides it's no big deal

377
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but it decides to slide out

378
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put you flat on the floor in front of me

379
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where

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i kick it and i was wearing flip-flops

381
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and i kick it with my big toe

382
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ouch it hurt note to self

383
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pick up the chair and put it back in the

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thing and i

385
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walked over and i did some stuff in the

386
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other side of the garage

387
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and and i and i'm walking back through

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to

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go up and i looked down and the folding

390
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chair

391
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that i had just kicked is now back

392
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in place i didn't put it there

393
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and i stop and i say

394
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wow that chair rita

395
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i just kicked it it was just on the

396
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ground

397
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and i'm tripping man i am tripping

398
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rita goes ah i picked it up and put it

399
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put it back

400
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i was like oh oh

401
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and at that moment i was so relieved

402
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:27,439
because i know that i just kicked the

403
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chair

404
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and i know that i walked past it and i

405
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:32,160
know that i told myself to put it back

406
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and when i turned around it was already

407
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back

408
00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:36,640
rita just happened to and i didn't say

409
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:38,720
anyway the bottom line is this

410
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:41,919
rita just this is how rita thinks rita

411
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goes i messed up

412
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and she was right because if she hadn't

413
00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:51,520
said

414
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that she could have messed with me all

415
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day long

416
00:17:58,710 --> 00:17:58,240
because that was a bizarre thing and i

417
00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:58,720
didn't say

418
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:01,440
anyway so that was that was that was my

419
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:02,480
day today

420
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,760
poltergeist almost

421
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,679
all right let's uh let's move on let's

422
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:09,360
get to it let's get this show cracking

423
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,360
happy birthday to today

424
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:14,480
guitarist carlos alamar

425
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the great is 69 years old of course

426
00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:21,520
played with everybody but uh for me most

427
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:24,559
most notably uh david bowie

428
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:27,280
because he played on a string of david

429
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,559
bowie albums

430
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,360
back to back including young americans

431
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:33,039
station to station

432
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:38,320
low heroes scary monsters

433
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:42,000
right there happy birthday carlos olimar

434
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also today motorhead's phil campbell

435
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:49,360
phil campbell today is 59 years old on

436
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this day in history 1902

437
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the island of martinique their mount

438
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pele begins the deadliest volcanic

439
00:19:02,950 --> 00:18:59,760
eruption

440
00:19:04,630 --> 00:19:02,960
of the 20th century the following day

441
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the city of saint pierre

442
00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,400
which some called the paris of the

443
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,559
caribbean was virtually

444
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:10,559
wiped off the map when it was buried

445
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:11,919
within minutes

446
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:15,360
and virtually everyone died instantly

447
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,320
there were only two reported survivors

448
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:20,000
one was a prisoner

449
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:23,760
held in an underground cell on this day

450
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:27,120
in 1902 fader fact

451
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:30,640
here you go you ready

452
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:34,240
before trees

453
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:41,600
earth was covered with giant

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white mushrooms that were 24

455
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:49,120
feet tall and three feet wide

456
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and covered most of the earth's

457
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:56,400
surface and that

458
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:59,200
is your fader fact tonight it's another

459
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fader night

460
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,120
open lines all night long and

461
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:05,280
uh you know what the collin number is

462
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:06,559
and if you don't you need to write it

463
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:12,310
747-228-2051

464
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so let me hit this river moon coffee

465
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rivermooncoffee.com all right

466
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:29,760
so last night our guest was nick redfern

467
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,480
and we discussed his new book the rental

468
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,159
shim forest ufo conspiracy

469
00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:37,039
a close encounter exposed as a top

470
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:39,360
secret government experiment

471
00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:42,880
and we discussed what he has suggested

472
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,240
in the book which is

473
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,320
that the rental shim incident may have

474
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:48,640
been the british military

475
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,000
using holographic uh technology

476
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:55,520
and drugs to simulate

477
00:21:02,789 --> 00:20:58,720
a ufo landing now

478
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:02,799
possible well sure anything is possible

479
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:06,159
right did it change my mind and

480
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:07,360
conclusions that

481
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,480
i may have about rendell shim no not

482
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:11,919
really

483
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:15,440
but here's the thing

484
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:19,360
i listen to everything

485
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:23,440
listen my favorite pie

486
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:31,110
peach pie warm with vanilla ice cream on

487
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,159
top

488
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,720
and it's got to be special vanilla ice

489
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,919
cream

490
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,919
someone may suggest to me the greatest

491
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:40,080
pie in the world

492
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:43,600
and i'll listen i will

493
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,080
and i'll try it i have an open mind

494
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:50,720
but it's gonna have to be a

495
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,559
life-changing experience

496
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:55,679
to sway me off of what i already know

497
00:22:05,029 --> 00:21:58,880
and that is peach pie

498
00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:07,350
there is always a but so i'm going to

499
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:08,720
have to interject

500
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,000
a butt here but i

501
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,159
will listen and i will always try to

502
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:16,240
expand my world

503
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:19,360
it's what life is about now

504
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:22,799
back to nick when it comes to rendleshim

505
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:25,360
there is a mountain of evidence and i do

506
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:26,080
mean a

507
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,440
mountain right

508
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:31,200
there is a mountain of evidence that is

509
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,559
out there that

510
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:35,440
you have to overcome when you publish a

511
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,080
book

512
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,640
like the randall shim forest conspiracy

513
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:40,480
he knows this

514
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,880
now nick did the research nick got the

515
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,679
data

516
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:50,240
he did the interviews and he put it out

517
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:51,120
there

518
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,320
world

519
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:57,440
to consider it it's really nothing more

520
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,880
than that

521
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:01,440
now there have been ufo cases in the

522
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:02,240
past

523
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:05,440
that have been debunked and we know this

524
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:08,559
this is an absolute fact and then we

525
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:10,159
have the situation of something like

526
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,280
roswell

527
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:13,840
where every type of theory has been

528
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,640
presented

529
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,320
it was a weather balloon it was project

530
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:18,159
mogul it was the russians it was the

531
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,039
germans

532
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:21,280
we had congress we had the gao the

533
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,960
general accounting office we've had

534
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,919
senators

535
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:26,159
uh look into it so many books and movies

536
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:27,280
and documentaries

537
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,559
and at the end of the day we all come

538
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:32,480
back around to pretty much one

539
00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:33,600
conclusion

540
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:35,799
something crashed outside of roswell in

541
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,360
1947 and it wasn't from planet earth

542
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:42,240
now it may very well turn out to be the

543
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:43,840
same thing with rendelsham

544
00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:47,120
every idea or theory has been and will

545
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:49,360
be and continue to be put out there

546
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,159
and we'll examine it and we'll come to a

547
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:53,679
conclusion

548
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:57,120
seriously it's really that simple

549
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,799
what is different about the rental shim

550
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:00,240
case well

551
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:03,760
first and foremost it's recent it's

552
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:07,520
modern it's now it happened

553
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:10,720
the year i graduated from high school

554
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:14,640
it happened the year i crashed my car

555
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,240
into my garage the witnesses

556
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,480
are still with us the evidence is there

557
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,080
the tape the memos

558
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,440
all of it is in the present we don't

559
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,520
have to rely on second third or fourth

560
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:29,520
person accounts or documents that are

561
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:30,559
questionable

562
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,679
it's the exact opposite i have said many

563
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,440
times on this broadcast

564
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,720
it is the words of john burroughs

565
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:41,360
that we need to be thankful for he was

566
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,240
there

567
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:44,640
we have the opportunity to sit down and

568
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,520
talk to john

569
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:48,080
and get his take his insight right up

570
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:48,640
front

571
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,320
his testimony in the now now

572
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:55,120
now just like with travis walton the

573
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,159
ability

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00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:58,720
to have these witnesses with us today to

575
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:00,159
share their experiences

576
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,600
is some of the most important things

577
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:04,080
that we have with us so that we can try

578
00:25:09,549 --> 00:25:06,640
and figure out what is really going on

579
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,559
when it comes to the ufo question and

580
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:11,919
extraterrestrial contact

581
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:15,120
now tonight is fader night yes

582
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:18,240
it's open lines all night long and i

583
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,320
know that most of you want to talk about

584
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,240
the show last night with nick redfern

585
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,080
and i understand it

586
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,200
i do i do we need to

587
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,000
constantly listen to everything i have

588
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:32,559
changed my mind i have had

589
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:35,760
my mind changed over the years

590
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:38,960
on different ufo cases researchers

591
00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:42,640
individuals witnesses photographs

592
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,080
videos books all right

593
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:48,240
i've always had an open mind i have

594
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:49,120
never said

595
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,880
this case is shut and that's what we

596
00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:54,480
constantly have to do

597
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,440
it is the most beautiful thing about

598
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,559
ufology

599
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,960
i don't know how many times i have said

600
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:01,919
it this

601
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,720
is like the barber shop this is like the

602
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,240
barber shop you remember the movie

603
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,880
barbershop if you can't say it in here

604
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,840
you can't say it anywhere in here in

605
00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:14,159
ufology and on fade to black

606
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:16,880
we listen to everybody and we can fight

607
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,440
we can

608
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:20,480
can do

609
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:23,600
all of that here but it stays here

610
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:26,640
we need to know that you can say or

611
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:27,440
present

612
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,960
anything what happens later what happens

613
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,159
later

614
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:35,360
but in the now now we need to always

615
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:35,840
have

616
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,120
an open mind okay now

617
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,440
uh again i know that you all want to

618
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,039
talk about this tonight

619
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:46,080
and it's open line seven four seven two

620
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two eight two zero five

621
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:51,200
one and so does our first caller

622
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:53,600
who called in last night at the end of

623
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:54,320
the show

624
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,760
and i didn't pick up i didn't

625
00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:00,000
i didn't find out about it until this

626
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:00,880
morning

627
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,440
so i'll be back after this short break

628
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,120
with our first caller

629
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:08,320
who i didn't pick up last night john

630
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,840
burroughs that's right this is fade to

631
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:12,480
black i

632
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:16,159
am your host jimmy church thursday night

633
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:19,440
fader night with open lines all night

634
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:20,320
long

635
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,720
i'll be right back with john burroughs

636
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,640
after this short break

637
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,399
stay with us follow me on twitter at

638
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,760
jchurchradio

639
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,559
i'm right there the sandboxes hashtag

640
00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:31,520
f2b

641
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:34,560
stay with us i'll be right back

642
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,430
[Music]

643
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,510
welcome back fade to black i am your

644
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,080
host jimmy church tonight

645
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,320
it's thursday night it is fader night

646
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,399
open lines all

647
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,760
night long seven four

648
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,880
seven two two eight two zero five

649
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:11,840
one seven four seven two two eight two

650
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zero five

651
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:16,480
one and uh look i see uh

652
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,320
this is uh this is gonna be a very

653
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:22,320
interesting night

654
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:26,080
and last night when it came to

655
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:29,360
uh our conversation that we had

656
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,640
with nick redfern about his new book

657
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,720
it was uh it was a great conversation

658
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,320
and it's something that

659
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,799
uh uh especially when it comes to fade

660
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:39,919
to black and

661
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,440
this show just like i said in the intro

662
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:46,000
it's so important that always always

663
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:48,880
especially inside of the ufo community

664
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:52,000
no matter what we always have open minds

665
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:55,600
we have to we absolutely have to and if

666
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,480
we want to sit around i can imagine if

667
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,960
i'm sitting at a ufo conference

668
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,640
sitting at the fade to black booth you

669
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:04,480
know kicking back and somebody comes up

670
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:05,679
and says hey

671
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,960
i want to tell you my idea about uh

672
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,200
uh about travis walton i'm going to talk

673
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,600
about keksburg and i go fat nah don't

674
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:14,880
want to hear it

675
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:19,120
here in the ufo community we don't

676
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,320
listen to anybody

677
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,559
you know that's not what we do it's not

678
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:23,679
what we do

679
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,960
and anything anything as we're trying to

680
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:29,360
figure out what is actually going on out

681
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:29,919
there

682
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,919
we need to listen to everybody all the

683
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:34,159
time last night with nick redfern

684
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:37,120
an absolutely amazing show interesting

685
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:37,840
idea

686
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:40,880
interesting book great let's let's

687
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,480
let's put it into the the pile of of

688
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,240
evidence that we have and ideas and

689
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:47,919
theories and consider

690
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,039
and ponder what is really going on but

691
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,039
as i stated last night in this show

692
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,760
as i have stated many times over the

693
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:56,799
years

694
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:59,120
one of the great voices and i think that

695
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:00,080
there are two

696
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:04,640
travis walton

697
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:08,240
second john burroughs and john burroughs

698
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:09,120
uh to me

699
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:12,960
is a gift he is a gift to all of us

700
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:16,080
last night he tried to call in i bet he

701
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,200
did

702
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,320
was him

703
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,039
and i found out this morning and he

704
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:25,200
certainly let me know that i left him on

705
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,279
hold last night didn't pick up his call

706
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:29,279
but i said john you'll be first up

707
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,880
tonight so i would like to welcome back

708
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:32,159
to fade to black

709
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:34,159
one of the two most important voices on

710
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,320
this planet john burroughs john how you

711
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,240
doing my man

712
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,640
oh good jimmy how are you tonight you

713
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:41,279
know

714
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:44,720
a great mood

715
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,760
as as are you and uh i am doing

716
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,960
fantastic

717
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,559
and and i know that we have a lot of

718
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,919
things to talk about tonight you have

719
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,279
some things that you want to say

720
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,760
but first and foremost i haven't talked

721
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:56,799
to you in a few months

722
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,240
how are you doing how's the family

723
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:03,120
i'm doing good um you know the whole

724
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:04,880
cove of things changed the world

725
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,679
so i had to adapt to it somewhat but

726
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:09,120
other than that doing well

727
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:11,919
well you know you're so tall covid would

728
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,640
take a long time to defeat gravity

729
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,799
and get up into your head and lungs so

730
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:19,120
you've got that going for you

731
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,399
yeah that sounds good gravity

732
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,480
gravity in your world is all different

733
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:25,840
thing so

734
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,279
uh so john i don't know before we get

735
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:31,919
started and oh also i want everybody to

736
00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:32,799
know

737
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,240
that uh this call is unscripted uh

738
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,640
john and i have not discussed anything

739
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:39,360
at all

740
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,480
about about uh nick's new book

741
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,039
have i have no clue uh which is a great

742
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,039
thing because the show was always open

743
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,799
and honest and i think that

744
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:51,600
having a just a conversation between

745
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:52,320
friends

746
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:54,240
is something that uh the audience will

747
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,519
always engage in

748
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:58,080
so that being said so the disclaimer is

749
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:59,440
out there john for the two of

750
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:02,480
us uh let's actually start here

751
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:06,240
have you read nick's book no i haven't

752
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,679
and that's kind of one of the first

753
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,039
things i want to clear up

754
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:11,519
because one of the things nick said last

755
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:12,240
night

756
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,399
was that he you know was going to end up

757
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:16,240
being on kevin randle's show down the

758
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:16,960
road

759
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,840
and they had talked about it and kevin

760
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:21,039
had told him

761
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,840
and i don't know if it's a

762
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,240
miscommunications or what but

763
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,640
him and i talked about his book well i

764
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,159
mean the book only came out over the

765
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,080
weekend now i have a copy that's going

766
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:31,679
to be on the way and i'm going to read

767
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:32,399
it

768
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:39,360
talk about technology being involved yes

769
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,640
that was a few months ago

770
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:43,279
when i did this show but we never

771
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:44,480
discussed

772
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,640
nick's book i mean it's kind of hard to

773
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,919
do that when you haven't had the

774
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,120
opportunity to read it

775
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,000
right right fair enough fair enough okay

776
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:54,000
but you did listen to the show last

777
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:54,840
night and i

778
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:58,159
assumed i assumed that

779
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:01,760
uh that most of the players involved in

780
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:03,279
rental ship knowing that this book was

781
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:04,559
out nick was going to be on fade to

782
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,600
black that

783
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:07,679
uh pretty much everybody was going to be

784
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:09,679
listening tonight or last night to see

785
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:10,000
what

786
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:13,120
uh uh nick had to say and certainly

787
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,240
you were out there and you were

788
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,399
listening uh

789
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,320
you were compelled to call into the show

790
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:19,840
last night i'm kind of glad that you

791
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,559
didn't

792
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,159
because we wouldn't have had the time to

793
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,559
talk last night or i i should say

794
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,880
i i'm i'm kind of glad that i didn't

795
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,480
pick up your call

796
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:30,399
because it would have been very limited

797
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:32,320
time but we can do what we want right

798
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,120
now

799
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,080
um you were compelled to call in and i'm

800
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:38,880
gonna have to say why

801
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:42,640
well because i wanted to kind of say

802
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,159
this i nick you know i

803
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,919
over the years when we did phenomenal

804
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:50,000
radio um we've had him on

805
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:52,159
he he does a good job of research and he

806
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:53,440
books puts

807
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,240
you know what two or three maybe more

808
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,440
books a year

809
00:34:01,830 --> 00:33:59,039
and he's really involved in the

810
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,840
community but

811
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:03,919
what i was wanting to call in about last

812
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:06,640
night was hopefully you know you don't

813
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:07,120
usually

814
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,720
allow somebody to call in during the

815
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:10,879
guest and ask questions but

816
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,560
i really wanted to learn more about

817
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,240
because i haven't read the book about

818
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,720
where how he came to this conclusion

819
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,119
and he did talk about that somewhat in

820
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,639
you know in the interview

821
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:25,200
but the idea that technology was

822
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:26,079
involved

823
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:29,200
is not wrong it's just

824
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,240
i'm not so sure that what he

825
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:34,560
put out is exactly the way it went down

826
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,079
based on a lot of research

827
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:38,480
i've done and been involved with some of

828
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,440
the people

829
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,280
inside the you know intelligence

830
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,960
agencies and everything else

831
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,879
that i've been had the previous meeting

832
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,320
with the talking to

833
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,679
you know and another guy i've been

834
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,440
working with on research

835
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:52,000
and what i was also concerned about and

836
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:53,359
you've read his book

837
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:56,159
was how much in his book does he back up

838
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,560
with

839
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:58,320
really good documentation you know

840
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,079
documents that have been declassified

841
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,000
that can back up what he said

842
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,720
well i think that will always be um and

843
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:06,400
i want everybody to go and read the book

844
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,680
for themselves and draw their own

845
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:09,200
conclusions and

846
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:12,720
and although my opinion uh

847
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:16,079
to me doesn't matter about this i'll

848
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:17,359
i'll say this

849
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:20,400
um after after reading the book

850
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,040
i think that he did a a a pretty

851
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,880
pretty good amount of research and he

852
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,119
did go back and contact

853
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:31,520
many players of which you know john

854
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:32,720
quite frankly i didn't know

855
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,079
anything about and so i thought that

856
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:39,119
he he did put in the time did it change

857
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,160
my mind

858
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,200
on rendlesham no it didn't um

859
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:45,920
but i look at at things always

860
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:46,720
differently

861
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,839
you know i i constantly

862
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,320
want to learn you know that's me i

863
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:54,560
constantly want to learn i want my mind

864
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,440
changed

865
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:58,240
i don't want to stay stagnant you know

866
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:59,280
what i mean

867
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,920
and and his book gave me something to

868
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:02,880
think about

869
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,400
but right there is so much

870
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,320
out there when it comes to rendlesham

871
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:10,160
information that i've gotten from you

872
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:10,880
directly

873
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:14,400
on and off of the air and uh

874
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,079
and the other stuff that is out there um

875
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,119
i don't think any one rental shim book

876
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,880
that has been published

877
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:25,440
uh tells the whole story i think that

878
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,480
there are a lot of

879
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,880
uh things that have been put out about

880
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,040
rental shim that are completely off of

881
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:33,440
the mark and not even close to being

882
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,680
you know part of the real uh truth

883
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:37,599
there's that element too when we are

884
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:41,040
forced to constantly filter you were

885
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:42,000
there

886
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,040
though you're a witness

887
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:47,440
john you're the first one to admit that

888
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:48,720
you don't know

889
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,000
everything and you only know

890
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,000
singularly what you witnessed and who

891
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:55,920
you communicated with and you've told me

892
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:57,119
that many times

893
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,560
hey man i only know what i know right

894
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,760
right so but

895
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:05,200
well where i was going to go with nick

896
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:07,599
was is that i really want to read the

897
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,480
book

898
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,480
and because some of the stuff he brought

899
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,240
up has been addressed before

900
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,079
he brought up one of the early

901
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,920
researchers that did a lot of work that

902
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,680
was way ahead of her time

903
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,760
and what i mean by ahead of her time was

904
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:20,960
she was already

905
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:23,680
on the trail of technology this was way

906
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,599
back in the early 80s

907
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,040
and i had an opportunity to meet with

908
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,480
her in phoenix about 88 i think it was

909
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,160
when she was speaking at a conference in

910
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,079
phoenix and we sat down and

911
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:36,640
talked for several hours and we um she

912
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:37,920
didn't make a copy of her book sky

913
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:38,560
christ but

914
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,680
what she went on from there on from some

915
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,520
of her books in technology were pretty

916
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,800
amazing

917
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,880
that the fact that she was already into

918
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,880
this way before anybody else

919
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,800
it even bridged that gap and that was

920
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:52,400
jenny randalls

921
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,839
and she did a lot of good research and

922
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:58,079
she had some insight with some people

923
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,599
inside the mod

924
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:01,119
and then another guy he brought up was

925
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,720
ralph noyes which

926
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,280
if you read ralph's book it's a it's a

927
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:06,640
it's an eye opener

928
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:10,240
so about how he inner

929
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,359
wove you know renders him into this book

930
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:15,839
that was supposedly fiction you know

931
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:16,400
what i mean

932
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,240
right right colonel hoyt

933
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:22,240
yeah that colonel but just some of the

934
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:23,599
things that he was and

935
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:26,079
and i guess at one point i'll throw some

936
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,960
names out

937
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,800
one of the people involved in the book

938
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,160
could have been nick pope

939
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,000
you know you know like colonel hoyne i

940
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,079
forget the name of the other person

941
00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:36,320
but it could have been nick pope himself

942
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:37,119
was involved

943
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,280
you know his name his character was

944
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:41,359
being used in the book also

945
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:44,240
okay so let's let me ask you uh i'm

946
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:45,680
gonna ask you a string of direct

947
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,640
questions

948
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:49,680
okay all simple you know but

949
00:38:56,910 --> 00:38:53,280
but kind of the obvious things which uh

950
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:56,920
okay first thing if we are talking about

951
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:59,839
holographic imaging and that kind of

952
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,040
technology

953
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:04,079
and how how advanced was it in 1980 i

954
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:04,400
don't

955
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,359
and jim are on your bellies right

956
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,359
and you heard me mention this last night

957
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:15,839
and you guys take a peek over the ridge

958
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,520
right i still put myself in that

959
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:21,760
position imagining you two going through

960
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,480
this

961
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,400
uh i don't even know how you're saying

962
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,240
today but nonetheless

963
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:28,880
you or maybe you're not but you are

964
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,560
looking over the edge

965
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:33,680
and you see an

966
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:37,599
object on the ground maybe a craft it's

967
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,160
something

968
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:41,359
it's glowing it's there and

969
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:44,880
how can that that moment

970
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,440
a be holographic because i think it was

971
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:49,119
something physical but i want you to

972
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:49,839
answer that

973
00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:53,040
number one and number two you and jim

974
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:55,839
saw the same thing and if you're on some

975
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,400
kind of

976
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:59,440
mild hallucinogenic drug that was misted

977
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:01,119
into the forest

978
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:04,319
how can you and jim have the same

979
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:07,599
hallucination okay

980
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,560
well let me answer this by it's gonna

981
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,160
i'm gonna have to backtrack a little bit

982
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:14,079
and then i'll get to the point

983
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:17,839
number one in 1980

984
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:21,280
what we saw we we both well there were

985
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:22,079
three of us

986
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,520
walked back just totally perplexed

987
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:27,119
because we couldn't understand it you

988
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,960
know what i mean we just we're like

989
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,359
what what could that have been there's

990
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:32,960
no way we have that technology

991
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,160
okay well now

992
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:38,400
the research and a lot of declassified

993
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,680
documents

994
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,680
we did have that type of technology that

995
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:43,200
could have caused those effects

996
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:46,480
now the part that you know without

997
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,359
reading the book

998
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:49,119
so i'm just going to go with the

999
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:50,800
possible lsd and stuff which

1000
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,760
they come out before it wasn't probably

1001
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,880
lsd

1002
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,119
okay because that was back with mk ultra

1003
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,119
okay and then k ultra

1004
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:02,240
today got busted for it and so

1005
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,560
they had they had they what i think they

1006
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:06,480
shredded documents or destroyed them or

1007
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:07,200
whatever

1008
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:09,040
and congress was all over it and then

1009
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:10,560
carter became president

1010
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,359
what happened was and this was confirmed

1011
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,119
from some people i've actually sat down

1012
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,800
with that were inside the military at

1013
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,839
the time

1014
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:20,400
was that after carter became president

1015
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,079
and with all the heat coming down

1016
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:23,839
all the technology the united states

1017
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,079
government was working on to include

1018
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,480
the initial part of sdi which was before

1019
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,079
reagan even became president

1020
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:33,119
was all transferred to the uk so is

1021
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,520
first

1022
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,560
assertion was it was all uk no it was a

1023
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:38,160
combination united states

1024
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:41,119
and you know the united kingdom working

1025
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,760
together

1026
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,880
through marconi and that's where you get

1027
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,160
into this whole thing with

1028
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:48,640
you have defense companies involved that

1029
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,319
work both in the united states and

1030
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:52,240
in you know united kingdom and sometimes

1031
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,359
other countries

1032
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,839
so the first thing was we couldn't

1033
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,200
rationalize it because

1034
00:42:00,790 --> 00:41:59,200
we couldn't accept it as anything that

1035
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,800
we could have well

1036
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,960
if people only knew the day what we've

1037
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,720
had that's never come out

1038
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,560
it would blow their minds do you know

1039
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,640
what i mean i do there's technology

1040
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,240
that's either an r d phase or

1041
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,000
operational now that hasn't even

1042
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:14,160
seen the light of day to the general

1043
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:15,520
public that if they only could

1044
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,240
understand

1045
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,800
it would just be mind-blowing okay never

1046
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,280
mind the fact that at that time i was

1047
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,359
you know just in the air force 20 years

1048
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,839
old and i just couldn't accept it

1049
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,280
but there's been more than enough

1050
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,119
information now that

1051
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:31,200
through research and hardcore

1052
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,160
declassified

1053
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:34,960
government documents not you know some

1054
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,520
blog

1055
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,760
saying this is what they think it is but

1056
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,839
really good documents to support what

1057
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:41,920
was really going on in 1980

1058
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,880
you know with inside uk and american

1059
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:46,560
government and technology wise

1060
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,319
now the lsd part isn't probably what

1061
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,800
what hit us now you have to go to condy

1062
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,720
what you've heard me talk about before

1063
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:57,200
and if you go into the report it talks

1064
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,560
about frequencies

1065
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,720
how it alters your perception your mind

1066
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,400
how the phenomenon itself could do it

1067
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:03,520
okay

1068
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,640
so the em frequencies is what causes us

1069
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,920
to see different things

1070
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,599
and affect what we saw what we

1071
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:12,000
remembered and how we reacted to it

1072
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:15,359
not drugs and the government was past

1073
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,319
the drug part

1074
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:18,720
and they were looking at em technology

1075
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,040
and how it could be used weaponized wise

1076
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:23,119
and that's right and condy and other

1077
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:25,119
declassified documents

1078
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,480
that are you know that are real

1079
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:28,800
legitimate documents not these made up

1080
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:31,119
like the um some of the mj12 documents

1081
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,400
and some of this other stuff

1082
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:35,599
right right right well okay

1083
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:39,280
so yeah so that that brings me to

1084
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:43,359
the point what you saw

1085
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:46,880
could technology have supported

1086
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,000
you thinking it was real

1087
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:52,480
or was it the opposite was it a real

1088
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,040
object

1089
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:56,000
and there wasn't any type of project

1090
00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:56,800
blue beam

1091
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,079
holographic uh you know

1092
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,119
coachella festival

1093
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:05,839
okay well here's the thing okay first of

1094
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,160
all

1095
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,400
i've never said i saw an object penisten

1096
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:09,920
did okay

1097
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:12,720
what i've always stated to include my

1098
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,599
statement was i saw some kind of lights

1099
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:17,680
some kind of stuff if you go to halt's

1100
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,119
memo even said unexplained lights okay

1101
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:24,079
so now we go to the next part that's

1102
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,800
real

1103
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:26,319
that's very intriguing and very

1104
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,680
interesting and there's a lot of

1105
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,160
documentation to support it

1106
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,880
there and the guy wrote a book by it was

1107
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,119
a researcher it was actually working

1108
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:37,839
he gets upset when his he's it's tied to

1109
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,560
a government

1110
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,640
project but it was funded through his

1111
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,400
university and he was down there working

1112
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,400
on a phenomenon that's there

1113
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:46,079
it's known to be there it's been

1114
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,440
admitted to be there

1115
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,520
to include even the condy report says it

1116
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:51,440
was uap okay

1117
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,880
now it's it's an energy okay

1118
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:57,119
now what's interesting is a lot of

1119
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,960
people think they were experimenting on

1120
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,839
us

1121
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:02,160
what a lot of the facts show is they

1122
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:04,160
weren't experimenting on us especially

1123
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,359
the first night

1124
00:45:09,150 --> 00:45:07,680
we just saw something and got involved

1125
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,160
in it they were doing

1126
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,520
experimentations on the phenomenon

1127
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:12,800
that's there

1128
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:15,599
it's an energy plasma type intelligent

1129
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,480
phenomenon

1130
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,160
that dynamics exists and

1131
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,160
the fact is is that they were studying

1132
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,079
it and it says in the combine report

1133
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,240
for military application and this was in

1134
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,160
1980.

1135
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:31,520
how do how do you explain

1136
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,640
of all of you sharing if it was a

1137
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:36,400
drug induced hallucination or

1138
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,200
electromagnetic induced hallucination

1139
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:41,440
how do you explain everybody having this

1140
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,720
seeing the same thing

1141
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:44,880
which also goes back to halt on the

1142
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,599
first night too as well

1143
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:49,839
no no actually pedestal is the only one

1144
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,119
who said it was triangular

1145
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:52,800
cabanzac's never said that in the

1146
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:54,240
interviews he's done i've never said

1147
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,640
that

1148
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,240
and halst never said it was a train

1149
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:58,079
going listen to his tape and what he

1150
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:58,720
said

1151
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,240
winking at you right which was different

1152
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:04,400
than what peniston said he saw now

1153
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,359
when it comes to peniston um he's early

1154
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:09,760
on said certain things that he stood by

1155
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,880
through the years there's been other

1156
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:13,440
things he's added to it and changed

1157
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,560
but there was the initial thing of about

1158
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,079
certain things that he took place even

1159
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:19,760
in his earliest interviews

1160
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,640
okay so here's where it gets very

1161
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:23,680
interesting to me

1162
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:27,200
okay and it involves some of why i think

1163
00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:27,599
i

1164
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,040
show

1165
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,880
and the executive producer kurt

1166
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:58,720
brubacher who's the guy that's

1167
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,720
deep in technology which if you start

1168
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,960
looking at him it starts to explain some

1169
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,240
of what went on

1170
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,200
he brought me out to l.a and i

1171
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,800
interviewed with the producer and i

1172
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,160
forget his name now but

1173
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:12,480
he was you know one of the bigger guys

1174
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,160
trying to run this whole thing with

1175
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:16,000
ufos are going to be exposed dodie and

1176
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,680
all those guys were involved in it

1177
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,800
and so we met for lunch and i don't know

1178
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,319
if you remember the name spa does but we

1179
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:23,680
were at spagos they were trying to make

1180
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:25,040
a big deal that we were

1181
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,559
in there it was hard to get in there

1182
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,520
you're dating yourself now

1183
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,680
yeah but i just said it was hilarious

1184
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:33,520
right trying to impress me

1185
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,640
and i caught him trying to record me his

1186
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:38,079
assistant was trying to record me and i

1187
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:39,440
challenged him on that

1188
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,119
and we didn't get along very well so

1189
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,440
after the the meeting

1190
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,960
rubric took me back to his house in

1191
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,559
beverly hills and

1192
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,800
and said you know what i don't really

1193
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:50,480
want you on

1194
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:53,119
this show but i want to do a lot more

1195
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,040
research into your case and i want to do

1196
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,800
something more deep

1197
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,440
involving rental some i'm like okay we

1198
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,880
have a problem here john because you

1199
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,240
can't remember what happened people

1200
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,599
times you got close to it

1201
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,839
let's put you under hypnosis so i

1202
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,920
brought in a professional guy that was a

1203
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,440
police officer

1204
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,440
and at the time i didn't give all the

1205
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:13,040
facts until after the hypnosis took

1206
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:13,839
place

1207
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,400
but a guy by the name of bob edmundger

1208
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:21,119
was involved with this inside the whole

1209
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,839
project

1210
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,920
and with some of the people inside that

1211
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:25,200
were working on this

1212
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,720
and one of the guys that was working on

1213
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:28,160
this behind the scenes was called put

1214
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:29,680
off

1215
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:33,119
okay yeah and what happened was

1216
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:36,880
this hypnosis is mind-blowing

1217
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:39,920
and there's stuff in it in 1988

1218
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,280
that when it was finished was like what

1219
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:46,160
this is unreal this can't be possible

1220
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,559
and

1221
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,680
over the years step by step what i was

1222
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,680
talking about and the way i was reacting

1223
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:53,440
what i was remembering what was going on

1224
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:56,800
has come to fruition and and been proven

1225
00:49:03,430 --> 00:48:59,599
out that what i said in 88 was real

1226
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,440
but here's the thing okay that

1227
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,480
is mind-blowing but it ties into a lot

1228
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,160
of different things to me

1229
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,000
one of the things that was going on

1230
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,480
which was verified by some other people

1231
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:14,319
including put off in this group when i

1232
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:15,680
met with them later that it was all

1233
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:16,480
passed around

1234
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,839
inside intelligence agencies was what

1235
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:22,240
i was actually able to communicate with

1236
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,040
something

1237
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:28,829
that apparently was probably from the

1238
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,359
future

1239
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,440
what was coming out was now remember

1240
00:49:37,970 --> 00:49:36,079
this is an 88 now not today with all the

1241
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,980
crazy stuff that's come out since then

1242
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,200
[Music]

1243
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:42,000
i was interacting with a life form that

1244
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:49,430
and it's pretty much was within

1245
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,240
the conversation what went on was this

1246
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:54,720
this energy-based life form was probably

1247
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:58,880
us from the future now how do we unpack

1248
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,359
that

1249
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:02,800
john how do how do

1250
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:06,160
seriously how do we unpack that you know

1251
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,119
the words you are

1252
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,760
speaking right now but for everybody

1253
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,440
listening

1254
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:14,559
now we are left with

1255
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,839
how do we unpack that because well that

1256
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:18,960
was the problem

1257
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,720
in 1988 it was like what

1258
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,960
this can't be real this is unbelievable

1259
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,319
and in fact

1260
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,319
what i didn't know or i suspect a little

1261
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,680
bit at the time was

1262
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,520
the brubacher's edge was he was

1263
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:33,680
technical technologically based

1264
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,040
he had actually worked for um learjets

1265
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,040
and then he worked for gm and the funny

1266
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,960
thing was through research

1267
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,960
rebecca worked at gm the same time kit

1268
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:44,240
green worked at gm

1269
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:46,880
and so it all goes back around to

1270
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:48,880
technology and development stuff

1271
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:51,040
and he was working on his own company

1272
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,880
that was looking at technology

1273
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:54,880
and then along the way comes chuck to

1274
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:56,240
carl that gets in the middle of it with

1275
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,119
brubacher

1276
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:00,720
brew or de carl ends up going to work

1277
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,160
for a guy called yoda which is was the

1278
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:06,000
top think tank guy

1279
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:07,760
for years and he trained most of the

1280
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,240
secretary of defenses right up to obama

1281
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:12,480
that came in and was the top guy in

1282
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:13,359
technology

1283
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:15,920
now for the audience chuck de caro was

1284
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,559
the the journalist with cnn

1285
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,160
that was involved with the case from

1286
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,079
nearly the beginning

1287
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:24,079
right who then went into mind control

1288
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,119
and em

1289
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,359
technology he ended up working for andy

1290
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:29,280
marshall and all you gotta do is

1291
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:30,640
google andy marshall and you're like

1292
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,200
blown away by his technology

1293
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,200
advancements and what he did to include

1294
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,839
angie andy marshall was partly behind

1295
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,599
the collapse of the soviet union with

1296
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:41,680
sdi and everything

1297
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:44,800
well okay this is uh john this is what

1298
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,680
obviously uh we need to do is we're

1299
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,520
going to continue this conversation i

1300
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:51,760
need to take a break here in a second

1301
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:54,079
and we're going to continue all of this

1302
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:54,800
because

1303
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,920
there is so much more uh to talk about

1304
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,040
here and we can't

1305
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:01,760
just stop in the middle of a couple of

1306
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:02,640
sentences

1307
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,079
here and now so can i get you to hang on

1308
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:08,880
sure no problem now um and and one other

1309
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:09,520
thing

1310
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:13,839
um and i i i really respect you for

1311
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:14,640
being a

1312
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:17,680
a gentleman um and second very

1313
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:18,720
respectful

1314
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:21,760
of everybody in the ufo community i i

1315
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,480
know that

1316
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,119
uh you have been through an awful lot uh

1317
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,559
over the years i can't

1318
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:28,079
imagine the things that you and your

1319
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:30,160
family uh have gone through

1320
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,520
as well as uh your your friends and

1321
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:35,520
and fellow service men and women in the

1322
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:36,559
air force

1323
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,599
that have endured just way

1324
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,240
way too much but you've stuck with this

1325
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,680
and you are here tonight

1326
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,520
and i want to thank you in advance so

1327
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:47,520
with that let's take a quick break

1328
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,680
our community respects you so much john

1329
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,200
so stay right there

1330
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,760
john burroughs surprise caller last

1331
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,000
night and today

1332
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:58,559
talking about nick redfern's new book

1333
00:53:02,710 --> 00:52:59,440
and

1334
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:02,720
john just man i i don't know john i

1335
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,440
think you just

1336
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:06,079
broke a story here on fade to black and

1337
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:06,880
i'm very

1338
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,280
rarely at a loss for words so thank you

1339
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,319
for doing that

1340
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,160
and we'll continue the conversation when

1341
00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:13,440
we come back after this you'll break

1342
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:14,670
stay with us

1343
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,440
[Music]

1344
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,040
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1345
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,520
jimmy church it is thursday night it is

1346
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,520
fader night

1347
00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:43,680
but tonight we have a very special guest

1348
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:45,119
uh colin and

1349
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:48,319
john burroughs is joining us

1350
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:50,079
doing a little bit of a follow-up of our

1351
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,599
show last night with nick redfearn

1352
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:53,680
discussing his new book the randall shim

1353
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:55,200
forest conspiracy

1354
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,640
and and john uh you know i i just said

1355
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,640
you know the words unpack how you know

1356
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:02,640
how do we unpack this

1357
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,720
and i i want to generalize a couple of

1358
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:06,800
things from what you just said

1359
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,319
and and that is uh and i'm going to

1360
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:12,400
follow up with peniston

1361
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:15,520
which is this it sounds like

1362
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,280
you are suggesting that uh nick redfern

1363
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:21,040
may be on to something and that

1364
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,800
historically these things have been

1365
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,400
referenced in the past

1366
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,160
not all of it but some of it and you

1367
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,640
haven't read the book but based on what

1368
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,200
nick was saying last night there could

1369
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,200
be some things to examine here

1370
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,480
number one number two that you didn't

1371
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:38,240
see anything when you looked over the

1372
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:38,799
hill and

1373
00:54:42,309 --> 00:54:40,400
you and i have discussed this so many

1374
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:42,319
times i've tried to get you

1375
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:45,119
to to say you know what you had seen but

1376
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:46,960
you had blacked out at that moment

1377
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,599
so that is a great clarification and

1378
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:51,359
then the third thing

1379
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,270
some type of paranormal interdimensional

1380
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:02,240
communication or witnessing with

1381
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:03,760
something from the future

1382
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,880
not necessarily extraterrestrial

1383
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:09,599
which leads me to peniston which is

1384
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,640
something that

1385
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:13,599
he's been very public about over the

1386
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,160
years

1387
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:16,559
is that where we are at right now before

1388
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:17,440
we move on

1389
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:20,160
yeah the only thing that's not totally

1390
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,799
right is

1391
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:23,520
what i did see something but it wasn't a

1392
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,799
triangular object

1393
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,359
right it was more like lights and some

1394
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:29,760
you know what i drew in my statement

1395
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,720
so and it was it wasn't like what

1396
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,799
peniston said where then he got up he

1397
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:36,079
went around it touched there was

1398
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,119
triangle in nature

1399
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:38,799
but there was something there but it was

1400
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:40,720
unexplained lights which is

1401
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:43,440
kind of what halt memo i said there was

1402
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,480
something there

1403
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:47,520
and at the time it's 1980

1404
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,960
you don't you don't have the reference

1405
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:50,880
stuff you do now or documented access

1406
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:51,599
and stuff

1407
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:54,720
but what we've been able to come up with

1408
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,960
supports that it was some kind of energy

1409
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,240
form or phenomena

1410
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,640
never mind it declassified well what

1411
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,160
partial declassification

1412
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,680
of condyne so so did i black out not

1413
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,119
necessarily

1414
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:09,599
if you go into conde it'll tell you that

1415
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,960
whatever you're dealing with could

1416
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,880
affect what you see and how you see it

1417
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,880
and what you remember and alter your

1418
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:16,960
memory but not only that

1419
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,520
have you ever heard of a personer in the

1420
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,960
dodge helmet

1421
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,960
uh say that again i i didn't quite hear

1422
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:25,119
you his last name was he was a scientist

1423
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:26,480
by the name of passenger

1424
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:29,440
and he worked on yes of course of course

1425
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,000
of course

1426
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,480
yeah well he was working with green put

1427
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:34,000
off on all those guys

1428
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:36,799
and that is they put this helmet on you

1429
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:37,119
and

1430
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,079
the gods helmet was because when they

1431
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,920
zapped people with it they thought they

1432
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,359
saw god

1433
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:52,640
but it wasn't god but that's what they

1434
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,160
perceived they saw

1435
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:56,640
based off of what they how they

1436
00:57:03,670 --> 00:57:00,160
modulated the frequencies in the mind

1437
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:03,680
now okay there is

1438
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,040
a few things that need to be

1439
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:10,079
uh directly talked about here and that

1440
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,040
is

1441
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,359
the what what happened on the first

1442
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,119
night what possibly happened on the

1443
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,960
second night what happened on the third

1444
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:17,760
night

1445
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:20,960
the first and second farmers fields

1446
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,839
crafts on the ground crafts above the

1447
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,200
ammo dumps

1448
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,760
uh beaming lights coming to the ground

1449
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:29,280
uh crafts above

1450
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:32,799
the uh the forest the radar

1451
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:36,480
uh reports that have been out there

1452
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,000
and the the dripping molten metal

1453
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,319
uh that was described by colonel halt of

1454
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:43,920
course his tape

1455
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,559
and everybody that was with colonel halt

1456
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:48,720
that night were also seeing the same

1457
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,520
things

1458
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,760
but the other point to everything that i

1459
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,960
just mentioned john

1460
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:55,200
which is what i need you to comment on

1461
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:56,480
you had just mentioned that

1462
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,000
everybody kind of had a different

1463
00:58:03,109 --> 00:58:02,799
story that night their own experience

1464
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:03,119
and

1465
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,839
that is something that we're all trying

1466
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:09,599
to figure out we know something happened

1467
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,720
in the woods

1468
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,240
we're just trying to figure out what

1469
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:13,760
happened in the woods and and

1470
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:16,799
who's whose testimony is

1471
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,119
is closest to the mark right isn't isn't

1472
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:22,000
that kind of where we're at these days

1473
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:25,520
well yeah but it's not fair to hold

1474
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,920
okay let me rephrase this so i get it

1475
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:29,200
right

1476
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,680
each person that was out there directly

1477
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,280
directly involved

1478
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:35,520
had different perceptions but if you

1479
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,359
listen to the hall of state

1480
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:39,760
if you listen to the the guys talking

1481
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,040
they never said crap

1482
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:43,920
they said lights it's all they ever talk

1483
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,480
about

1484
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,319
here he comes from the south now it's

1485
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:48,559
beaming the light down at us now

1486
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,119
what's very interesting jimmy is we now

1487
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,960
declassify documents

1488
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,280
that show that they were able at that

1489
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,599
point in time to use lasers

1490
00:59:01,190 --> 00:58:59,920
and create either through this

1491
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,200
phenomenon itself

1492
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,119
which is something to do with plasma

1493
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,520
they recreate they were able to create

1494
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:07,599
these blue lights with plasma

1495
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,720
and control them with lasers

1496
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:13,040
now at that point right there in that

1497
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:14,480
area they were working on that

1498
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:15,359
technology

1499
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:18,480
right so this is

1500
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:21,280
is this the you know holographic

1501
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:24,079
projection technology that nick redfern

1502
00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,880
is referencing

1503
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:27,119
well see holographic's different it is

1504
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,160
it is going out

1505
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,440
you're throwing it no this was this is

1506
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:33,280
where then people don't listen to me

1507
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,079
closely

1508
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:36,720
there is a phenomenon it's briefly

1509
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:37,440
discussed

1510
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:41,119
what i mean by briefly is the whole

1511
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,520
um nuts and bolts of it are not

1512
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,200
discussed in combine it's

1513
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,960
a lot of the stuff's declassified in

1514
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:49,040
fact i have good working inside

1515
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,319
information that

1516
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,079
that was a cut and paste job that they

1517
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:54,240
put out when david clarke

1518
00:59:57,750 --> 00:59:55,839
found out about some kind of report

1519
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,760
floating around and the british are a

1520
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,440
little different than the americans

1521
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:01,839
they will release things especially

1522
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:02,559
clark

1523
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:04,319
which at the time i was really upset

1524
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:05,760
with them when they said they released

1525
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:07,119
all the documents and they found out

1526
01:00:09,270 --> 01:00:07,760
later

1527
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:09,280
through his own emails everything and

1528
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,040
all the research that he really

1529
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,599
did get the hood winked by the fact that

1530
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:15,119
they had all their documents

1531
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,319
that they told him they were going to at

1532
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,480
least he knew about him but they didn't

1533
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:21,119
and he spent three or four years inside

1534
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,960
the legal system and he forced their

1535
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:23,680
hand

1536
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:26,559
on a lot of stuff but getting back to it

1537
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,040
is

1538
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,680
incondying what's been released what's

1539
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,520
been declassified and a lot of even that

1540
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:33,200
is still redacted

1541
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,440
it talks about a real phenomenon and

1542
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,760
they they call it a uap

1543
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,520
and then you remember when clinton when

1544
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:41,119
she said there's a new thing called the

1545
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,319
uap

1546
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:44,880
it's an energy thing and and even what

1547
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,359
trump

1548
01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:47,760
just said when he said yeah i've seen

1549
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:48,640
the tapes

1550
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,440
and it's very interesting okay and

1551
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:52,799
everything about this

1552
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:55,200
including the condy documents was nobody

1553
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:56,400
wants to take serious

1554
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:57,839
because it goes back to what redford

1555
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:59,839
said last night it's not the nuts and

1556
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,559
bolts

1557
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:02,319
ufology stuff they want to hear and

1558
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,400
believe in they don't want to follow up

1559
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,160
with it but in condy

1560
01:01:10,069 --> 01:01:08,000
it admits they were going to continue

1561
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:10,079
working on this for military

1562
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:13,520
use well and you know what

1563
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:16,880
no after pouring over condyne

1564
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:20,799
uh uh and you and i uh off of the air

1565
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:23,359
we you and i discussed very specific

1566
01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:26,160
paragraphs of the condyme report and

1567
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,599
and you know we're trying to pick it

1568
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:30,720
apart to see what they were referencing

1569
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:32,960
and only you understand these

1570
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,000
conversations

1571
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:35,760
that we've had in the past but there was

1572
01:01:41,829 --> 01:01:38,880
one point that i brought up with you

1573
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,839
um that is in the report that i think is

1574
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:43,040
the most telling

1575
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,079
sentence in all of condyne

1576
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:49,119
which is they say that these effects

1577
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:53,280
are known effects from uaps

1578
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:55,440
how right you know and i'm paraphrasing

1579
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,880
a little bit here but that's pretty much

1580
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:58,240
word for word what the

1581
01:02:01,589 --> 01:02:00,640
what is said in the report and all that

1582
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:01,599
tells me is

1583
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:04,960
a uaps are are real

1584
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,000
they know what they are and they know

1585
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:10,160
the effects on humans because it's

1586
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:11,200
happened in the past

1587
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,240
and this is uh just

1588
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:16,880
what happens this is that's how they

1589
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:17,359
that's

1590
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:19,920
how they dispel it out in the condyne

1591
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,920
report don't they

1592
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:23,920
right they go even deeper to say many

1593
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,599
people have been exposed to this

1594
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,520
it's even in the content report which

1595
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:29,520
pope years ago got on fox and talked

1596
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:30,240
about how

1597
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:32,880
there were dog fights with uaps and

1598
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:34,079
there was stuff going on

1599
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:35,920
and i remember the guy that asked him

1600
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:37,839
dogfights why haven't we heard about

1601
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:39,599
that and nick did as usual he drew it

1602
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,960
back in and

1603
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:42,880
got he got kind of excited on this

1604
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:44,880
interview and he said more than he maybe

1605
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:45,520
should have

1606
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,200
and he kind of drew it back in but he

1607
01:02:51,270 --> 01:02:49,200
said yes there was stuff going on

1608
01:02:52,630 --> 01:02:51,280
which is in condy where there are things

1609
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,640
that went on

1610
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,720
that with the interaction with aircraft

1611
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:56,880
and uats to include the fact

1612
01:03:01,029 --> 01:02:59,359
that different mission commanders that

1613
01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:01,039
involve air wings and stuff

1614
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:04,640
were brief on not only if there was an

1615
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:05,920
experience with the pilot

1616
01:03:12,069 --> 01:03:09,760
or a group you know flying how to try to

1617
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:12,079
handle it afterwards or during to

1618
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:14,079
include the pilots themselves or brief

1619
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:16,000
on what to do and not to do with the

1620
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:18,000
encounters that took place

1621
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:21,200
so where where do you think we are

1622
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:24,079
i mean you know obviously it's it's such

1623
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:24,640
a

1624
01:03:55,109 --> 01:03:53,359
know this

1625
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,119
i don't i don't think it was

1626
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:57,359
hallucinogenic drugs

1627
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:00,720
and holographic tech that that i

1628
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:03,440
don't believe very well most likely was

1629
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:05,359
and i say likely because i haven't been

1630
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:06,960
able to put all this information out yet

1631
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,480
which i plan on doing

1632
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:10,880
you know in book form with documents to

1633
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:12,720
support and stuff i'm working with

1634
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:15,280
a uk researcher that he's done an

1635
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:16,799
unbelievable job

1636
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:19,440
um that we'll be able to back it up and

1637
01:04:24,150 --> 01:04:20,720
what i mean by that

1638
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,160
not i i totally want to read nick

1639
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:27,039
uh you know reference book and um what i

1640
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:29,280
heard from him say last night was well

1641
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:30,960
when you guys talked about how we're not

1642
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:32,960
sure yet and there's not enough evidence

1643
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:33,680
well

1644
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:36,640
there's not yet as nick pope would like

1645
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:39,119
to say there's not a ufo and a hangar

1646
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:41,280
but there's a ton of information that

1647
01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:43,039
paints a picture that can explain a lot

1648
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:43,760
of this

1649
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:47,280
and what was funny is the cutting edge

1650
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:49,760
stuff they were working on in 1980 and

1651
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:50,559
earlier

1652
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:52,319
is stuff you're seeing with tic-tac and

1653
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:55,119
other things today

1654
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:58,880
so you're suggesting terrestrial

1655
01:05:02,150 --> 01:05:01,440
i'm suggesting this and and i'm glad you

1656
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:02,160
gave me an

1657
01:05:06,390 --> 01:05:05,839
answer to say this it's stuff that we've

1658
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:06,400
gleaned

1659
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,720
by studying whatever this phenomenon is

1660
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:10,559
which we never get to the bottom of

1661
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:12,079
because too many people are arguing

1662
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,880
about

1663
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,119
it's you know a human type form or

1664
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,119
something from zeta radiculi

1665
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,960
right they don't want to accept condyle

1666
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:20,480
at all they don't want to accept that

1667
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:20,960
there's

1668
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:22,720
some kind of energy form out there

1669
01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:25,280
that's most likely a life form

1670
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:27,280
that god only knows where it comes from

1671
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:28,640
which even could be

1672
01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:31,920
us from the future okay and the

1673
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:34,559
in the in the bottom line is is it's

1674
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:36,319
just like everything else that goes on

1675
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:37,680
it's all tied up and

1676
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,920
it hits people's points they don't want

1677
01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:42,000
to look at the the deep down

1678
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:44,240
the research at it and they don't want

1679
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,520
to go where

1680
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:47,680
they don't want to believe is possible

1681
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:49,359
and like redford said last night

1682
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,960
his book probably won't be a bestseller

1683
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:52,240
because it's going to touch on things

1684
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,559
that

1685
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,160
the people inside you falsely don't want

1686
01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:56,160
to don't want to deal with

1687
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:58,079
and and just like all the stuff that

1688
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:59,520
we've worked on and we're going to put

1689
01:06:01,829 --> 01:06:00,160
out

1690
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:01,839
a lot of people in ufology aren't going

1691
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:03,440
to agree with or like it

1692
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,839
but we've got documentation and we can

1693
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:07,760
paint a pretty good picture

1694
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:10,319
of what went on probably in 1980 and how

1695
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:11,839
the technology has evolved

1696
01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:14,480
and even explain how pickpack exists and

1697
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:16,640
one of the things that goes on jimmy

1698
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:18,640
is like okay you think about the six and

1699
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:19,920
fifteen right

1700
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,720
and six it was probably rnd and you look

1701
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:24,000
at the area it was

1702
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:27,200
and uh zonda slipped up or he said

1703
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:27,760
something

1704
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,599
on the what what's the name of the show

1705
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:31,200
they did and they do in the second year

1706
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:32,799
on uh

1707
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:34,720
unidentified or something yeah

1708
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:36,640
unidentified right there was one of the

1709
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:38,319
episodes it was episode three or four

1710
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:39,359
where he said

1711
01:06:42,870 --> 01:06:40,880
he went as they were going to the break

1712
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:42,880
he said there's radars and stuff down

1713
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,520
there

1714
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:45,520
in that general direction that could

1715
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,799
have played a part in it

1716
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,720
they broke and never came back and

1717
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,280
talked about it because here's the thing

1718
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:53,839
the technology in six and even in 15

1719
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:55,359
because if you go to florida and you

1720
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:56,799
look at what's down there

1721
01:07:00,870 --> 01:06:59,039
stealth technology is all down there

1722
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,880
radars all this new technology

1723
01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:02,000
everything they're working on

1724
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,640
is right down in an area um where it

1725
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:06,480
would be operational that could affected

1726
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:07,680
that last strike group

1727
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:10,640
never mind the helmet that they're using

1728
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:10,960
on

1729
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:13,520
they started using it in six which could

1730
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:14,799
control

1731
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:19,280
kinds of other things

1732
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:24,000
okay and they haven't been able yet

1733
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,760
totally to get the energy or the power

1734
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,880
source

1735
01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,440
defined enough to keep it or it can be

1736
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,839
worldwide operational or at least

1737
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:35,359
in six they have it and they were

1738
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:37,280
getting closer to 15 and god only knows

1739
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,480
where it is now

1740
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,440
but it does tie into a phenomenon right

1741
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:43,119
it's intelligent based

1742
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,400
now are we are we getting closer and

1743
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:48,240
closer to

1744
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,160
uh a jacques valet uh

1745
01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:54,559
point of view and theory on this where

1746
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,760
jacques says hey

1747
01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:57,520
we're probably dealing with something

1748
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,280
completely interdimensional not

1749
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,200
necessarily physical

1750
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:03,440
and that's where we need to focus the

1751
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,079
science right now

1752
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:08,160
yeah and the thing was is remember when

1753
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,440
jacque came out with this he was

1754
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,280
attacked immersively by the people

1755
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:13,680
inside ufology no doubt

1756
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:16,000
no doubt and they don't they don't want

1757
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:17,040
to go off

1758
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:20,560
the nuts and bolts thing of some kind of

1759
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:23,920
you know saucer has traveled across the

1760
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,799
universe

1761
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:27,440
to show itself briefly to us but then

1762
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:29,359
we've never been able to nail it down

1763
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,319
you know what i mean

1764
01:08:32,769 --> 01:08:32,000
yeah but i don't want to get off that

1765
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:32,779
idea either

1766
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,120
[Laughter]

1767
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:38,159
hey look what we've uncovered and

1768
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,960
what we've learned from this phenomenon

1769
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,960
and the technology we're developing or

1770
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,799
have developed and the uses that can be

1771
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,719
done with it

1772
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,400
and one of the other things that slowed

1773
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:50,560
it down was the computing ability

1774
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:53,440
which we now have quantum computing sure

1775
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:54,480
which is the key

1776
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:57,839
to making this work and and the energy

1777
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,199
abilities to generate the energy like

1778
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:03,359
i think i talked on your last show where

1779
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:04,319
and if you notice

1780
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,279
what you co leak out a little bit was

1781
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:08,960
put off on those guys got a contract

1782
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,719
with the tank company

1783
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,199
immediately yeah yeah well you have to

1784
01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:15,199
check this out

1785
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:19,679
through condyne i got the mod to admit

1786
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:22,799
that they had developed a weapon off of

1787
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:25,359
this phenomenon the uap

1788
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,679
they threw the kitchen sink at me they

1789
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:29,920
gave me a document that was 99

1790
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:33,199
blacked out and what they did was

1791
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:35,839
they admitted they they they've studied

1792
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:37,120
it is existing

1793
01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:38,799
and they were working on technology and

1794
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:40,159
they have a weapon

1795
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:41,759
and the one thing they didn't black out

1796
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:44,000
was a tank company that's based in ohio

1797
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:45,279
in the united states

1798
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,319
now what's interesting is

1799
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:50,159
i've also learned that one of the things

1800
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,600
they're working on with tanks which is

1801
01:09:55,590 --> 01:09:53,520
the safest way right now but they're

1802
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:55,600
they're working on it within the ship

1803
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,280
you know the navy ships too

1804
01:10:01,350 --> 01:09:59,520
but the aircraft is we talk about this

1805
01:10:02,070 --> 01:10:01,360
where they can create a bubble a plasma

1806
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:02,080
bubble

1807
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:05,760
and it can disappear completely so

1808
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:09,840
okay it's like cloaky okay i i know that

1809
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:10,719
you have

1810
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:14,719
said in the past that you don't

1811
01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:17,840
know of you know what what when you know

1812
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,440
what it was and what happened in randall

1813
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:21,360
shimon that you're open to

1814
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:24,560
uh any ideas here are you

1815
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,080
when are are you still including

1816
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:31,280
an extraterrestrial e.t event

1817
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,400
as a possibility in rendelsham

1818
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:36,239
i'm concluding the fact that there was a

1819
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,040
uh whatever uat is was involved

1820
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:41,199
it was in that area it's in other parts

1821
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:42,080
of the world

1822
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,840
even with skinwalker and the fact is

1823
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:48,080
is that the government is aware of it

1824
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:49,520
they understand it

1825
01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,960
and they're studying it and they're

1826
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,440
utilizing it and our technology that

1827
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:55,440
we're developing from it

1828
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:58,480
is coming from whatever uap is but the

1829
01:11:02,870 --> 01:10:59,440
bottom line is

1830
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:02,880
i can't tell you 100 what a uap is yet

1831
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:05,920
but i can tell you and show you and i

1832
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:06,400
will

1833
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,239
here eventually with this great

1834
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:09,520
researcher

1835
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,560
give a very good picture of how

1836
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:15,679
where our technology was right before uh

1837
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,920
our incident what we probably were

1838
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:18,960
involved with

1839
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:21,120
and how it's evolved over the years to

1840
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,600
include why would the government

1841
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:26,000
say i wasn't in when this took place why

1842
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:27,520
did they why are my records still

1843
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,960
classified you know

1844
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,560
why did department of justice have to

1845
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,000
get involved in all this

1846
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:34,080
why did the cia guy show up that's a

1847
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,360
doctor show up

1848
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:36,960
and the one other thing i didn't tell

1849
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:39,520
you about was with the car on the sky

1850
01:11:43,189 --> 01:11:42,400
when when the cia guy showed up met with

1851
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:43,199
my attorney

1852
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:44,640
and when you asked me one time before

1853
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:46,800
was i tied down certain things yes

1854
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,640
because attorney-client privilege to

1855
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,880
this doctor and my attorney

1856
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:52,800
the bottom line was he provided

1857
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:55,120
documents that were given to the the va

1858
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:56,400
and the department of defense

1859
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:59,280
it brought in dod doctors and i got my

1860
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:01,199
surgery and i eventually got my

1861
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,400
settlement right but ultimately

1862
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,159
one of the things that was in these

1863
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:08,960
documents that i can't release

1864
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:11,280
i called up chuck to carl because of

1865
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,199
where who he was and what he worked on

1866
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:15,679
and i read him i asked him some

1867
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,120
questions he says where are you going

1868
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,719
with this and how do you know about this

1869
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:21,120
and i read him a paragraph from the

1870
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,679
document and he went batshit crazy

1871
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,520
and he said how did you learn this where

1872
01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:27,120
did this come from this is national

1873
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,239
security

1874
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,800
and whoever got gave you this we need to

1875
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:32,719
find out who it is well

1876
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,040
we talked about it and they ended up

1877
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,159
having a meeting

1878
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,199
with green de carl and marshall

1879
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:41,679
and found out later green was involved

1880
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:43,920
with the marshall group anyway

1881
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:47,199
so this is all evolving technology and

1882
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,760
stuff

1883
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:49,600
and that's one of the other things was

1884
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:51,920
with my dna and everything else that

1885
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,560
got involved with this i have been

1886
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,199
careful what i've said because i can't

1887
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,600
i've got a lot of proof emails

1888
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:01,280
documentation even what green said

1889
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:02,320
publicly

1890
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,400
but it's been hard to get enough

1891
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:06,719
documentation to back up what i think's

1892
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,440
going on

1893
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,840
and we're really down that line now

1894
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,600
where we've got a lot of stuff that's

1895
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:12,960
going to support it

1896
01:13:16,830 --> 01:13:15,199
and that's why i've been super careful

1897
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:16,840
and do you

1898
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:19,920
include in that part of

1899
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,640
of all of this in the uap side do you

1900
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:23,760
include with that

1901
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:27,199
the possibility of an experiment

1902
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,880
on on u.s personnel

1903
01:13:34,709 --> 01:13:32,640
i don't think it was the first night i

1904
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:34,719
think it was involving the testing

1905
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,320
pike in his book even said they were

1906
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,560
working on the phenomenon and they were

1907
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,560
blasting in frequencies through the

1908
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,000
there were underground tunnels there

1909
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:44,239
that are real and they were used for

1910
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,440
other things early on but they were

1911
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:47,600
using the forum to blast the phenomena

1912
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:50,000
and do other stuff so i think the first

1913
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,679
night we just

1914
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:53,600
went out there and we weren't supposed

1915
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,120
you know as far as they didn't think we

1916
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:56,400
were going to be out there they had plan

1917
01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:57,040
on it

1918
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:59,760
but then i do think probably if not

1919
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:01,040
night two night three

1920
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:04,560
was was more of probably well it's uh

1921
01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,920
the cat's out of the bag

1922
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:08,159
and now we're gonna have to you know

1923
01:14:10,709 --> 01:14:09,520
we're gonna have to wrap this up some

1924
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:10,719
way and we're gonna have to figure it

1925
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,600
out more

1926
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:13,920
so at that point the third night maybe

1927
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:16,719
there was some expectation on us based

1928
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:18,159
on what had come out the first two

1929
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:19,199
nights

1930
01:14:25,350 --> 01:14:22,640
and the the third part

1931
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:25,360
which is probably just as important as

1932
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:26,719
the first two

1933
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:29,840
is that if we look at all of this and

1934
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:30,400
then we

1935
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:34,239
add in a time travel element

1936
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:37,760
is the military aware of

1937
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:40,719
contact with us from the future and are

1938
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:43,520
they continuing this

1939
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:45,199
well that's when you have to get into

1940
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,280
again put off in stargate

1941
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:49,280
and remote viewing because remote

1942
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,679
viewings technically

1943
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,560
travel you're using your mind to travel

1944
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:56,880
to the future

1945
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:59,679
to see things and and and and look for

1946
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,239
things

1947
01:15:05,830 --> 01:15:03,679
so in fact yes they are aware

1948
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:05,840
that there's a possibility or that you

1949
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:06,719
can go

1950
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,000
out and look at the future now the way

1951
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,960
time travel has been explained to us is

1952
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,640
not necessarily the way it is

1953
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,800
or what they know do you understand why

1954
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,320
i do i fully understand

1955
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,880
great tv and everything else but it's

1956
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:22,000
probably not

1957
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:23,679
and they say probably because i want to

1958
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,600
be careful because again

1959
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:27,679
i haven't done all the or i've done a

1960
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:29,360
lot of research recently this guy has

1961
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:30,719
been working on a lot of it

1962
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,880
for quite a while and he's putting it

1963
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:34,400
together really well

1964
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:37,199
but ultimately i don't want to botch it

1965
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:37,840
right now

1966
01:15:43,189 --> 01:15:40,719
until it's to finalize but yes there's

1967
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:43,199
the ability to go forward and look

1968
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:46,239
and it appears to be and

1969
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,920
and he's uncovered documents and what

1970
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,280
they're working on too

1971
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:51,520
that they ca whatever this is does come

1972
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,320
back and

1973
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:55,040
can pop in and out and points just like

1974
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:57,280
skin walker runs from in other areas

1975
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,120
now before i let you go john and i do

1976
01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,719
want to thank you for taking the time to

1977
01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:01,840
call in tonight and

1978
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,679
obviously we'll circle back and do

1979
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:06,239
another show here very soon and and

1980
01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:09,920
and take this further but um much about

1981
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:12,640
uh all of rendell shim has been focused

1982
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:13,440
on

1983
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,960
uh the et element and and

1984
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:19,199
that part of it which which i understand

1985
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:22,159
why because i'm part of that

1986
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:25,440
jim peniston and the time travel aspect

1987
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:26,320
of this

1988
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:29,360
has always kind of gotten lost in

1989
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:32,320
in the smoke in the midst is this is

1990
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:34,640
this a time where we go back

1991
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:37,760
and revisit uh jim's testimony

1992
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,120
and and and bring jim back and start

1993
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:44,800
talking about this time travel aspect

1994
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:48,080
sure i mean the thing is that

1995
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:51,199
he he he's got a book

1996
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,800
they're supposedly coming out the second

1997
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:55,440
part and he's got his feelings about

1998
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:56,560
what it is

1999
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:58,560
and the the thing is it's what you and

2000
01:17:04,390 --> 01:17:01,120
nick reference talked about last night

2001
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,400
okay when you see something like

2002
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:06,400
just like these pilots thought like the

2003
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,679
one guy said

2004
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:09,520
dude there's something that's thrown the

2005
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,360
whole fleet of them right

2006
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,600
but when you see something you've never

2007
01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:16,000
seen before

2008
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:18,239
you don't have any reference point to

2009
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,320
what it is what it's capable of

2010
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,120
and one of the things was it's been it's

2011
01:17:25,990 --> 01:17:24,560
been confirmed and six

2012
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:26,000
those helmets were out there they were

2013
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:27,600
using them on the 18th

2014
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:30,880
it's evolved and now it's the 15 or the

2015
01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:34,400
f-35 and they can control drones and all

2016
01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:35,840
kinds of swarm drones and everything

2017
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:36,480
else

2018
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:39,280
but when you can't explain it you have

2019
01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:42,080
to start looking and doing research now

2020
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:44,480
what i can say about pennison is his

2021
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:46,080
hypnosis in 96

2022
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:48,080
affected a lot of what he feels is

2023
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:50,320
possible and what's going on

2024
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:54,000
and only the audience can go back look

2025
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:55,840
at his testimony over the years look at

2026
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:57,120
his book and everything else and make

2027
01:18:02,470 --> 01:17:58,480
their own decision

2028
01:18:04,229 --> 01:18:02,480
but what i am saying is what i feel is

2029
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,239
there is an energy

2030
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:06,320
and it's something that could very well

2031
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:08,239
be from the future based on my hypnosis

2032
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:10,880
and some other research that maybe can

2033
01:18:15,030 --> 01:18:13,280
come back and forth and pop in and

2034
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:15,040
what he even said at one point which

2035
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,400
hasn't been talked about a long time was

2036
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,080
they were back looking which is what

2037
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:20,640
in my hypnosis said the same thing and

2038
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:22,560
there was some really strange things

2039
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,000
that parallel between both of our

2040
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:25,760
hypnosis that mine was in

2041
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,440
88 years of 94 or 95 that really

2042
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:31,280
opened my eyes up when i saw the

2043
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,760
transcript from his after mine

2044
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:35,920
and to what i understand he never saw

2045
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:37,679
mine you know at that point that was my

2046
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:38,080
next

2047
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:42,159
know about my hypnosis

2048
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:44,480
and my hypnosis had been shut had been

2049
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:45,600
completely

2050
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:48,880
um kept quiet in other words i signed an

2051
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:50,640
exclusive agreement with brubacher that

2052
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:51,920
it could be released without my

2053
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,880
permission

2054
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:55,120
and it never came out it's never been

2055
01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:56,560
other than linda

2056
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:58,800
has used little clips of it that are now

2057
01:19:03,270 --> 01:18:59,920
on youtube

2058
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,280
that um that are have come out on in her

2059
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:04,800
presentations that she's done over the

2060
01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:05,440
years

2061
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:06,800
and one of the things that's pretty

2062
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:08,800
moving is if you see it if it's still up

2063
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:09,280
there

2064
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:11,360
is when the guy says look at the life

2065
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:12,320
form or whatever

2066
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:14,239
you know what it what is the blue light

2067
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:15,600
and it comes back

2068
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:19,920
it's the life form man oh this is a 1990

2069
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:22,320
this was a 1998 jimmy way before all

2070
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,880
this

2071
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:24,719
stuff has been floating around and going

2072
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:26,080
on you know uh

2073
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:29,280
john there's a part of me that that is

2074
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:32,239
very self-serving and and i just want to

2075
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:33,600
keep this conversation

2076
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:35,679
going there's another part of me that

2077
01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:38,159
says there's a whole nother show here

2078
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:40,320
that needs to be discussed i don't know

2079
01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,520
which way to go

2080
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,440
uh what are you doing right now do you

2081
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:45,440
got to go hang out with the family

2082
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,800
or do you want to hang out for another

2083
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:48,239
segment it's light here i'm in the

2084
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:50,000
central time zone it's it's getting

2085
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:51,679
close to my bedtime you know

2086
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:54,880
okay because if if i stop this right now

2087
01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:57,760
i'm going to uh uh have a lot of angry

2088
01:20:00,310 --> 01:19:59,120
people in twitter that i'm going to have

2089
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:00,320
to deal with

2090
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:03,280
why don't we do this uh just hang on

2091
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:04,719
let's do one more segment

2092
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,360
everybody that's on hold right now i'll

2093
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:09,440
get to your calls and we'll do a full

2094
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:10,320
hour

2095
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:13,760
of phone calls after uh after john

2096
01:20:16,629 --> 01:20:14,639
tonight

2097
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,639
because john when i come back i actually

2098
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:18,800
want to talk about

2099
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:21,440
uh what you remember with the

2100
01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:22,400
communication

2101
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:25,440
in those hypnosis sessions before you

2102
01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:26,639
say you can't

2103
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:29,840
you're going to after this short break

2104
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:32,320
this is well i'll talk about it i'm

2105
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:33,760
putting it out now because

2106
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,480
i there's stuff that supports it because

2107
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,320
let me tell you jimmy

2108
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,719
watching myself on tape afterwards it

2109
01:20:44,629 --> 01:20:42,480
was like how in the heck

2110
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:44,639
i don't know how you feel yeah you know

2111
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:45,520
what

2112
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,320
i'll never do it i'll never do a job

2113
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,920
let's take a break right here this is

2114
01:20:53,430 --> 01:20:51,199
fade to block

2115
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,440
john burrow surprise phone call you know

2116
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:55,120
what we're just gonna continue the

2117
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,239
conversation

2118
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,840
we will have an hour of phone calls

2119
01:21:01,750 --> 01:20:59,840
tonight though so just you wait this is

2120
01:21:03,430 --> 01:21:01,760
fade to black i'm real jimmy church

2121
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:03,440
more with john after this short break

2122
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:15,110
stay with us

2123
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,590
[Applause]

2124
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,110
welcome back oh man

2125
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,960
i'm real jimmy church this is fade to

2126
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,880
block and the game changer networking kg

2127
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:54,719
are a the planet hello to everybody out

2128
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,600
there listening

2129
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,600
and i know that everybody was expecting

2130
01:22:01,910 --> 01:21:59,440
a fader night tonight so was i

2131
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:01,920
right open lines all night long but when

2132
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:03,520
uh we get the opportunity

2133
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,000
to uh speak with john burroughs like

2134
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:08,400
this on a very important night

2135
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:10,880
uh we're to take advantage of that so

2136
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,320
john again thank you

2137
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:14,960
uh for taking the time and i i did none

2138
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:16,000
of this would have happened

2139
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:19,520
if i hadn't caught your uh private

2140
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:20,480
message to me

2141
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,600
24 hours late

2142
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:25,199
that's the funny part about all of this

2143
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:27,040
now i wanted to ask you really quick i

2144
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:28,400
don't want to spend too much time on

2145
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:29,040
this

2146
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:31,120
but uh were you surprised about the news

2147
01:22:37,110 --> 01:22:32,960
today about project blue book being

2148
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,790
well i mean i haven't really looked at

2149
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,800
it that closely but the numbers i was

2150
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,320
watching your intro tonight

2151
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,400
the numbers that they're putting out

2152
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:45,920
were equivalent to what

2153
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:49,600
you know um ancient aliens draws

2154
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:51,600
and even that you know the show that we

2155
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:53,040
talked about that history is producing

2156
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:53,679
now with

2157
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:56,000
lua horizonto in it i mean the only

2158
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:57,199
thing i could think of is

2159
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,840
that that the numbers weren't high

2160
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:01,920
enough to support the actors where

2161
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:04,480
you know as ancient aliens and stuff

2162
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,040
isn't

2163
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,679
is is no so much labor intense that

2164
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:09,520
would be the only reason why

2165
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:11,199
maybe it's not making enough money i

2166
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:12,639
mean i just don't know i mean

2167
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:15,360
you'd have to really ask them why i mean

2168
01:23:22,950 --> 01:23:16,159
i don't know

2169
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,960
i just started to get into my stride

2170
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:24,480
you know with the show where i started

2171
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:26,000
to put away

2172
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:28,719
uh the historical inaccuracies and just

2173
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:30,719
enjoy it as something that was fun to

2174
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:31,600
watch

2175
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:33,360
and i was starting to get into it and

2176
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:35,600
then the you know the end season two on

2177
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:37,520
a cliffhanger like that and then a month

2178
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:38,960
later to get cancelled

2179
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:42,159
yeah it's a bit surprising yeah i don't

2180
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:42,800
know i mean

2181
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:45,040
i mean again it's just no different than

2182
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:46,080
anything else

2183
01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:48,000
but what did trump tell uh tucker

2184
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,360
carlson this summer

2185
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:51,600
you know he we've got great pilots he

2186
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:53,360
believes they saw something but it's not

2187
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:53,840
from

2188
01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:56,400
an alien type of thing and then he kind

2189
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,760
of does a reverse

2190
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:59,760
that you know when his last thing when

2191
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:01,440
he came out it's very interesting you

2192
01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:02,320
know and

2193
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:03,520
you know it needs to be looked into

2194
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:05,040
further so what does that mean you know

2195
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:05,679
what i mean

2196
01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:08,480
where is this going you know yeah yeah

2197
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:10,639
these are very interesting times for

2198
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,520
sure

2199
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:14,000
just like you dropping the bombshell uh

2200
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:15,520
in the last segment

2201
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:18,480
about uh you know this the possibility

2202
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:20,400
of time travelers and

2203
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:23,600
uh you found out through hypnosis that

2204
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:25,679
you may have actually had direct

2205
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:27,120
communication

2206
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:29,600
now when you say something like that and

2207
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:31,199
you've gone back and

2208
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,040
and and watched and reviewed the

2209
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,040
transcripts of this

2210
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:36,960
when you say communication what went

2211
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:39,199
down

2212
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:42,800
well when i went under

2213
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,320
it was it was this whole thing is

2214
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,400
strange because at the time i didn't

2215
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:48,080
know emanator was involved and all this

2216
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,719
other stuff

2217
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:50,880
and the different the working group

2218
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,239
behind it was

2219
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:54,320
was pretty intense with technology and

2220
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,440
everything else

2221
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:58,480
it seemed like i was a little suspicious

2222
01:25:00,629 --> 01:25:00,159
being that i was a cop and everything

2223
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:00,639
else

2224
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,960
because it just didn't add up but at the

2225
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:04,880
time i didn't realize the heavy hitters

2226
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,920
were behind and someone

2227
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:07,840
didn't find about 12 years later but

2228
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:09,199
ultimately he

2229
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:11,440
tried to put me under and he couldn't

2230
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:13,280
then he did something really strange

2231
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,639
it's right on tape

2232
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:17,120
and only maybe a handful of people have

2233
01:25:22,070 --> 01:25:18,560
ever seen this

2234
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,080
but he he he came and he ran his hand

2235
01:25:26,229 --> 01:25:24,880
across the top of bridge of my head and

2236
01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,239
back across

2237
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,400
and when he did that i went under just

2238
01:25:34,550 --> 01:25:30,400
like that

2239
01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:34,560
so it was easy after he did that

2240
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:36,719
technique whatever it was right and

2241
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:39,360
never been able to explain what he did

2242
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:42,400
but the the point being was that he was

2243
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,159
able to put me under pretty easily then

2244
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:45,920
but he couldn't at first the normal way

2245
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:47,360
but he did something else that he knew

2246
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:48,400
about

2247
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:52,000
that you know that he um that he did

2248
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:55,760
and that went under so we started um

2249
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:00,080
going through what happened and

2250
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:03,679
as we got to a certain point he kind of

2251
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,679
went off script and what i mean by our

2252
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:08,000
script was you normally would want

2253
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,880
just to talk about what you remember

2254
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:13,199
what you saw right

2255
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:16,480
well we got to the part where

2256
01:26:21,750 --> 01:26:19,679
i met with hall on the third night

2257
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:21,760
and halt said they were over us they

2258
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:23,520
were communicating with us

2259
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:25,360
and everything else this comes out of my

2260
01:26:30,629 --> 01:26:27,120
hypnosis

2261
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:30,639
and he says see if you can talk to

2262
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,600
whatever the lights or whatever and all

2263
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,360
of a sudden i started talking to the

2264
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:37,760
lights

2265
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:39,760
i started communicating real time with

2266
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:42,719
whatever this was

2267
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:46,400
what and how do i even ask a question

2268
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:46,960
right now

2269
01:26:54,470 --> 01:26:50,560
john i don't even know

2270
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,480
uh where to go with this were you

2271
01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:56,639
if you're communicating that means you

2272
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:58,320
are hearing something

2273
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:01,520
right right i actually changed

2274
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:04,880
my whole personality changed and and

2275
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,560
and there was a conversation taking

2276
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:08,880
place and you know how i can be

2277
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:11,520
kind of argumentative and disagree a

2278
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:13,199
little bit there was things that he was

2279
01:27:18,070 --> 01:27:16,480
trying to interject that whatever was

2280
01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:18,080
going on was saying nope not

2281
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:20,239
possible not real not possible it didn't

2282
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:21,120
happen

2283
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,280
no you're wrong this isn't this this is

2284
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:25,440
the way it is that's the way it was

2285
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:29,360
and i've had it evaluated by somebody

2286
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,239
in the hypnosis field that's was

2287
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:34,560
certified in hypnosis therapy and

2288
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,600
everything else is

2289
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:38,159
very reputable and they clearly said

2290
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:39,040
that they

2291
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,800
very rarely have ever seen anything like

2292
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,440
this like what they saw going on was

2293
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,199
just kind of like what

2294
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:47,199
how is that even possible did you get

2295
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:48,560
anything it appears

2296
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:51,760
did you get any data

2297
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:55,760
you know what time when from the future

2298
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:58,320
who they were why were they here were

2299
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:58,960
there

2300
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,600
you know anything any any you know like

2301
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:03,360
facts

2302
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,679
okay here's what it didn't come out like

2303
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:07,360
how far they were from and all that

2304
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,520
what was interesting is they got really

2305
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:11,120
really worked up

2306
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:13,679
i was able to talk about well i'll just

2307
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:15,040
go ahead and say a couple of things that

2308
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:16,800
at the time was a joke

2309
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:19,840
but they were they had

2310
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:22,480
what this life form was was involved

2311
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:23,920
with mars in the moon

2312
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:25,840
and you know how back then it was man in

2313
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:28,400
the moon and all that other stuff well

2314
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,080
now they're coming out with all this

2315
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:32,239
stuff about mars and the moon

2316
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:34,560
but it went into a little bit of detail

2317
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:37,199
why they were there what they were doing

2318
01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:40,239
and then this was the kind of a couple

2319
01:28:42,709 --> 01:28:41,840
of the really strange things that

2320
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:42,719
happened

2321
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:45,199
okay one of the things they said was

2322
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:46,080
they were back

2323
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:49,600
looking at us

2324
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:53,120
now because they feel

2325
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:56,400
that what they are is what we were

2326
01:29:02,709 --> 01:28:59,440
before and they've evolved to this

2327
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:02,719
and that they're looking at all this

2328
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:05,040
and then one of the things that was

2329
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:06,560
implied was

2330
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:08,239
and this is where it gets really freaky

2331
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:09,760
jimmy that i've had to live with well

2332
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:11,360
two things one they'll be back

2333
01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:14,239
for us or for me they said they'd be

2334
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:15,920
back for me eventually

2335
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:19,280
but the other thing was i very well

2336
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:20,639
could have been talking

2337
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:23,040
you know back then consciousness was not

2338
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:24,400
a thing in 88

2339
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:28,400
right right okay this energy form could

2340
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:29,280
have been me

2341
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:36,550
when they when they when they said they

2342
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:37,520
were involved

2343
01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:40,880
with mars and the moon uh

2344
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:42,560
and and there was information about that

2345
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,000
what were they talking about that

2346
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:46,719
were they on mars on the moon like right

2347
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:47,120
now

2348
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:50,719
that is part of their uh exploring the

2349
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,440
past

2350
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:54,080
or that they were involved with mars in

2351
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:54,880
the moon

2352
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:58,159
in the future well it didn't he didn't

2353
01:30:02,550 --> 01:29:59,520
ask a lot about that

2354
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:02,560
but it seems to be and i haven't looked

2355
01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:03,920
at the tape for a while

2356
01:30:07,430 --> 01:30:05,120
they were implying there was a

2357
01:30:11,669 --> 01:30:07,440
civilization there at least at one point

2358
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:11,679
mars in the past

2359
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:16,800
in the past yes and it was them

2360
01:30:24,149 --> 01:30:20,159
yes they had evolved whatever this was

2361
01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:24,159
had evolved to this life form

2362
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:27,199
and like i said in the one clip when he

2363
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:28,639
says now look at the lights

2364
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:32,719
and what is it it's the life form so

2365
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,960
what i'm getting at is this was back in

2366
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,719
88 now not

2367
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:39,120
today's with all the consciousness stuff

2368
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,480
and all this other stuff

2369
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,480
this was a guy who did it in the air

2370
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,159
force

2371
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:46,560
didn't know what to do how to deal with

2372
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:47,520
what was going on

2373
01:30:51,189 --> 01:30:49,679
was not a reader didn't have the

2374
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:51,199
internet back then and all that other

2375
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:51,760
stuff

2376
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:54,480
and all this craziness comes out now at

2377
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:55,840
the time it was like

2378
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:57,360
wow it's just like so many things that

2379
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,960
have happened but then you start

2380
01:31:02,070 --> 01:31:00,800
researching and things start evolving

2381
01:31:04,310 --> 01:31:02,080
and then you start

2382
01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:04,320
to be able to paint a picture and a

2383
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,840
pattern of documents and

2384
01:31:08,950 --> 01:31:07,920
researching what was going on you know

2385
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:08,960
what i mean

2386
01:31:15,910 --> 01:31:12,719
i do i do and you

2387
01:31:19,750 --> 01:31:15,920
you have to ask the question why you it

2388
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:19,760
sounds like this blue this this energy

2389
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:20,960
being let's just go

2390
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:23,280
go with that it's uh almost like a blue

2391
01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:24,080
light but

2392
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:27,679
this this energy being specifically

2393
01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:30,960
said that either they were there for you

2394
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:33,280
or they were going to come back

2395
01:31:37,830 --> 01:31:34,960
is it suggesting that they would be back

2396
01:31:41,030 --> 01:31:37,840
for me right was that because

2397
01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:41,040
john was that because your meeting of

2398
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:41,600
them

2399
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:44,239
in randallstrom that night was by chance

2400
01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:44,960
that was by

2401
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:47,440
accident or they knew that you were

2402
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,880
going to be there

2403
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,639
in the forest that night because they

2404
01:31:52,870 --> 01:31:52,080
were from the future and now they're

2405
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:52,880
back

2406
01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:56,480
to finish what you know what i mean

2407
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:58,320
and that they weren't yeah i know i know

2408
01:32:01,189 --> 01:32:00,320
and unfortunately a lot of that wasn't

2409
01:32:04,149 --> 01:32:01,199
covered

2410
01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:04,159
to even include what i what i could try

2411
01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:05,360
to remember

2412
01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:08,000
when i got close to it what i really saw

2413
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:09,280
because it got into that

2414
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:12,400
and eventually it was like i lost

2415
01:32:15,910 --> 01:32:14,480
interest whatever it was lost interest

2416
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:15,920
in the hypnosis guy

2417
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:19,280
and it just shut down and then so linda

2418
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:20,719
mullen how

2419
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:23,920
saw the tape was blown away by it and

2420
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:25,920
she wanted to do some follow-up stuff

2421
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:27,040
because she felt there was a lot of

2422
01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:27,760
stuff missed

2423
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:29,520
you know you know like linda is she

2424
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:30,800
always he looks at stuff

2425
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:31,760
well this should have been that's just

2426
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,520
been done right so we got a um

2427
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:37,440
she got involved with somebody in

2428
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:38,880
arizona that worked

2429
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:41,520
and got there was out through stanford

2430
01:32:45,189 --> 01:32:42,800
university she

2431
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:45,199
got this person's name and i went under

2432
01:32:49,350 --> 01:32:46,320
hypnosis

2433
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:49,360
with this particular person now

2434
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:51,280
something was blocking me at that point

2435
01:32:54,149 --> 01:32:52,560
other than a very

2436
01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:54,159
few strange things and she's released a

2437
01:32:59,590 --> 01:32:57,360
couple clips at one point

2438
01:33:01,669 --> 01:32:59,600
in one of the clips it shows me almost

2439
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:01,679
levitating off the couch

2440
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:04,159
and she wanted me to go down this tunnel

2441
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:04,960
that appeared

2442
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:07,760
and and contact the blue lights and and

2443
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:10,159
i go into it i can't and i'm shaking my

2444
01:33:14,390 --> 01:33:11,840
whole body shaking and i'm lifting

2445
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:14,400
almost like off the couch

2446
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:17,600
and so something was blocking me from

2447
01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:18,719
going any further

2448
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:22,080
on what it was and everything else why

2449
01:33:28,390 --> 01:33:25,199
you i've that's

2450
01:33:30,950 --> 01:33:28,400
never okay i don't know

2451
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:30,960
i i don't know but according to like why

2452
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:32,239
have all these different people showed

2453
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:33,920
up in my life that i can prove

2454
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,960
why the dna testing why does it show

2455
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:38,480
some anomalies that are just

2456
01:33:41,189 --> 01:33:40,239
mind-blowing but i have the proof that

2457
01:33:43,270 --> 01:33:41,199
they're there

2458
01:33:44,870 --> 01:33:43,280
why have these people showed interest in

2459
01:33:46,229 --> 01:33:44,880
me um

2460
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,239
you know why did they put me under

2461
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:48,719
hypnosis why why

2462
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,880
are they interested in all of this i i

2463
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:52,400
can never get a straight answer from

2464
01:33:55,990 --> 01:33:53,280
them i mean

2465
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:56,000
it's just like with kate green he's very

2466
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:57,280
coy at everything

2467
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:58,320
and one of the things i'll give an

2468
01:34:02,149 --> 01:34:00,480
example of kid green he'll say he's now

2469
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:02,159
under the assumption that the majority

2470
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:03,280
of what people are seeing

2471
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:05,440
is from here right but he won't

2472
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:07,440
elaborate and he leaves it open

2473
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:09,040
he doesn't elaborate how we got the

2474
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:10,800
technology and everything else

2475
01:34:14,950 --> 01:34:12,880
he's just saying what you are seeing is

2476
01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:14,960
our own dell delta technology

2477
01:34:20,229 --> 01:34:17,440
but where did we learn and glean and get

2478
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:20,239
this technology from

2479
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:23,040
what i find interesting about this is

2480
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:23,679
that

2481
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:26,800
kit green seems to

2482
01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:30,800
have been in the middle of the craziest

2483
01:34:35,270 --> 01:34:31,600
elements

2484
01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:35,280
of everything not just ufology

2485
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:38,719
right it's it's it's sri it's

2486
01:34:43,430 --> 01:34:41,600
it it's it's crash retrievals it's the

2487
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:43,440
wilson document

2488
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:46,880
the alien autopsy film

2489
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:50,880
now you know ttsa uh john burroughs

2490
01:34:55,510 --> 01:34:54,400
and and randall shim kit green seems to

2491
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:55,520
be

2492
01:35:00,229 --> 01:34:58,639
everywhere where these stories are the

2493
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:00,239
most intriguing

2494
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:03,280
and i i can't i can't quite figure that

2495
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,800
out

2496
01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:06,800
well i can kind of explain that to you

2497
01:35:10,709 --> 01:35:07,920
sure his job

2498
01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:10,719
and he got he got an award for something

2499
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:11,199
that

2500
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:13,280
is it's been somewhat explained but he

2501
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:14,719
got more than one award from the

2502
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:15,600
presidential

2503
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:17,440
from the president he actually it's been

2504
01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:19,280
proven he brief presidents on this

2505
01:35:24,229 --> 01:35:22,320
he worked at the weird desk but he al

2506
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:24,239
well he was involved with that little

2507
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:24,960
part of it

2508
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:28,400
but his main job was soviet

2509
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:30,639
technology and what they were working on

2510
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,320
and how they were developing

2511
01:35:36,790 --> 01:35:34,639
and in that time frame that he was

2512
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:36,800
working with the cia before he left them

2513
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,320
became a contractor for

2514
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:40,560
more than one intelligence agency he was

2515
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:42,000
like all three of them

2516
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:45,360
um he um he was studying and involved

2517
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:46,880
with all their technology and they were

2518
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:48,239
working on mind control

2519
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,360
mk ultra um you know uh

2520
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:53,520
you know remote viewing all this stuff

2521
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:55,600
so he was involved in all this stuff

2522
01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:56,480
from

2523
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,719
way back and what did you know what i

2524
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:00,000
mean i i do

2525
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:04,080
all under the guise of a pathologist in

2526
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:05,600
chicago

2527
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:08,320
right i just do autopsies no it's

2528
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:09,040
detroit

2529
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,639
yeah but but see most people don't know

2530
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:16,560
this and i didn't even notice

2531
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:19,040
and this is another whole wacky story

2532
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:20,000
but

2533
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:22,880
these college universities are all being

2534
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:25,920
used for different research and stuff

2535
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:28,560
on technology and you know some of this

2536
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:29,760
other stuff

2537
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:32,320
and his university if you go back and

2538
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:33,360
look at those

2539
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:34,960
documents that were released that nap

2540
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:36,400
was involved with about the different

2541
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:37,280
stuff that

2542
01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:39,760
remember now here's another weird thing

2543
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:40,719
what happens

2544
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:43,520
mccain gets involved in my case

2545
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:44,880
everything goes down

2546
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:47,360
when everything settles who do they go

2547
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:48,080
to

2548
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,159
mccain's committee for technology

2549
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:55,199
money and briefings including dia papers

2550
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:56,719
that are giving them a cane

2551
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:01,040
bingo and what what happens

2552
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:02,800
these guys are all working on his cars

2553
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:05,360
in universities what's his face some

2554
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:06,880
who's the guy that worked closely put

2555
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:09,840
off um um he's another physicist

2556
01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:11,679
um i can't think of his name out he's

2557
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:13,920
all over pst tsa and stuff

2558
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:16,800
he now is eric davis eric davis yes he

2559
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,800
now works at the college university

2560
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,840
right yes he does and and

2561
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:24,639
hide they hide under this technology and

2562
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:26,000
this research

2563
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:29,280
in these universities now and and i'm

2564
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:30,400
i'm just gonna put this

2565
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:33,440
out there everybody i don't know

2566
01:37:36,830 --> 01:37:35,920
how many guests john that i have had on

2567
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:36,840
this show

2568
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:39,440
extraordinary guest with with things to

2569
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:40,560
say

2570
01:37:45,830 --> 01:37:43,920
well throughout the interview and then

2571
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:45,840
suddenly go and then well you know then

2572
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:46,560
uh

2573
01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,080
contacted me

2574
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:53,280
it's like i hear it

2575
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:56,880
over and over again and and when it

2576
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:57,360
comes

2577
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,199
you know back around full circle

2578
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:00,960
reynoldshim one of the most

2579
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:04,400
uh important events in in history

2580
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:06,880
and yourself included specifically here

2581
01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:07,840
we have

2582
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:10,880
hal put off and kit green uh in the

2583
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:11,679
middle of

2584
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:14,239
uh the rendel shim story does that

2585
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:17,520
surprise you

2586
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:21,360
well the whole thing

2587
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:22,800
every just when you think it's safe to

2588
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,560
come out of the water is something where

2589
01:38:28,229 --> 01:38:26,560
else weird happens but

2590
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:28,239
one of the things another thing would

2591
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:30,320
put off that most people don't know

2592
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:30,719
about

2593
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:34,880
was he was nbia he worked with sri

2594
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:36,400
and he was involved in all this thing of

2595
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:38,800
technology so not only was he in

2596
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:41,760
you know worked with um with you know

2597
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:43,119
remote dealing but he was

2598
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:45,440
involved in all this and one of the

2599
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:46,480
things that

2600
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:47,920
jimmy i don't know if i've mentioned

2601
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:50,000
this before but we've uncovered

2602
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:52,560
proof with documents that the white

2603
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:55,600
house actually was involved in our event

2604
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:58,719
in randallshim and it was involved

2605
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,280
because

2606
01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:01,600
they were using are you aware of

2607
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:02,480
reynoldson

2608
01:39:06,149 --> 01:39:03,920
is where they were working on the death

2609
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:06,159
ray out there at bowsey

2610
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:08,080
and they discovered radar and they were

2611
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:10,080
and all the infancy and radars and all

2612
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:11,440
these death rays and all sort of

2613
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:12,080
technology

2614
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,760
lasers and everything will develop right

2615
01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:15,119
there that's right and

2616
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:17,679
what what they did was they took the

2617
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:19,040
original radar stuff

2618
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:21,040
and there's documents to support this

2619
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:22,320
they modified it

2620
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:24,960
they ran cables which was right next to

2621
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:26,080
the the um

2622
01:39:29,109 --> 01:39:27,840
lighthouse and they were using this

2623
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:29,119
technology

2624
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:32,239
to be medium frequencies inland towards

2625
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:33,440
our location

2626
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,239
and we have the we have the stuff and

2627
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,920
i've had a lot of exchanges where

2628
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,920
technology would put off over the years

2629
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:41,840
and he admitted he was involved not

2630
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:43,679
necessarily rendlesome but he admitted

2631
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:45,280
that he was involved in this technology

2632
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:46,800
and he knew what it was and how it

2633
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:48,000
caused issues

2634
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:50,000
you know and and affected people and

2635
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:51,360
could affect things it was being

2636
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,040
involved with the military

2637
01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:55,679
is it is there something further that we

2638
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:56,800
need to

2639
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:00,159
uh take into consideration when

2640
01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:03,520
we talk about kid green and and put off

2641
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:06,239
and others there's a key element here

2642
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:07,119
and that is

2643
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:10,320
the c i a i i and

2644
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:13,920
d i a d i a two but specifically

2645
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,040
the central intelligence agency um

2646
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:19,440
because of you know and going all the

2647
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:20,719
way back over to

2648
01:40:26,149 --> 01:40:23,920
uh today with the ttsa and put off

2649
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:26,159
and the cia and and who was staffing

2650
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:27,520
that that that

2651
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:30,719
is one of the consistent when we break

2652
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:32,000
all of this down and we look for a

2653
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:33,679
common denominator

2654
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:36,560
we start to see this play over and over

2655
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:38,719
again don't we

2656
01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:41,600
yeah and there's jacques too in in

2657
01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:42,560
different ways

2658
01:40:46,470 --> 01:40:44,719
is in the middle of all this and his

2659
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:46,480
research and stuff

2660
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:49,040
you know uh before i let you go again

2661
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:50,800
john thank you so much man what

2662
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:54,239
what what an enlightening extraordinary

2663
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:55,920
evening i didn't expect any of this

2664
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,040
tonight and

2665
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:58,800
one of my favorite things to do is to

2666
01:41:03,189 --> 01:41:00,239
learn something and

2667
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:03,199
wow you brought it tonight um but i

2668
01:41:08,149 --> 01:41:05,440
wanted to leave you with this

2669
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:08,159
uh a few months ago jacques was on the

2670
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:09,440
show

2671
01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:12,560
and he said it was weird too

2672
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:14,719
john because it just blew by in a

2673
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:15,760
conversation

2674
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:20,000
but jacques valet said one thing that

2675
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:20,719
we've all

2676
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:23,440
pressed for him to say over the years

2677
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:25,440
but he's avoided it

2678
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:28,080
and he said this i'm paraphrasing but

2679
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:30,239
this is pretty much a direct quote

2680
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:33,600
he said um of course we have

2681
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:37,119
retrieved flying saucers and craft

2682
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:40,400
of course this is fact but and then he

2683
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:41,280
went on

2684
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:44,000
but he actually said that sentence and

2685
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:45,520
he's never

2686
01:41:49,070 --> 01:41:48,159
crossed that line in the past it's

2687
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,080
always been

2688
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,880
inter-dimensional there's another

2689
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:52,880
element to this there's

2690
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:55,520
physical uh things that happen to human

2691
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,040
beings and what is causing

2692
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:59,440
but he's never said anything like that

2693
01:42:04,629 --> 01:42:02,000
which goes back to what you just said

2694
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:04,639
when everything is uh you know you look

2695
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,040
at who is involved in all of this

2696
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:09,199
jacques valet is right there too he is

2697
01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:12,000
certainly in the know isn't he

2698
01:42:15,669 --> 01:42:14,159
right and unfortunately edgar mitchell's

2699
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:15,679
gone but he

2700
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:18,960
really was neck beeping all this and

2701
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:21,920
one of the things that um right i know

2702
01:42:25,430 --> 01:42:22,960
we gotta close out but

2703
01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:25,440
i i got to talk to him before he passed

2704
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:27,920
and i pressed him towards the end of the

2705
01:42:31,030 --> 01:42:29,760
conversation about condying and

2706
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:31,040
everything else

2707
01:42:38,629 --> 01:42:34,880
and you know i i do have the tape

2708
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:38,639
but what happened was he said

2709
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:42,960
that condying was pl was a major part

2710
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:46,159
of what we were dealing with to include

2711
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:47,119
what a uap

2712
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:50,159
is and that there's no doubt we what we

2713
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,360
encountered in reynoldson was uap based

2714
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,679
and that what a lot of what's going on

2715
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:57,119
isn't it

2716
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,159
you know is is related to now he

2717
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:03,040
would not go further what a uap was and

2718
01:43:05,669 --> 01:43:03,840
again

2719
01:43:07,750 --> 01:43:05,679
that is the hardest sticking point to

2720
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:07,760
get to what exactly

2721
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:11,760
is a uap john you are the reason why

2722
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:14,560
we are going to get to the bottom of all

2723
01:43:17,189 --> 01:43:15,440
of this

2724
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:17,199
and and thank you my friend thank you so

2725
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:18,719
much and uh

2726
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,800
my best to the family i want you to

2727
01:43:25,510 --> 01:43:22,400
enjoy your weekend

2728
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,520
and uh and whatever lockdown means for

2729
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,960
you and your family that at least you're

2730
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:28,639
making the best of it and everybody is

2731
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:29,280
safe

2732
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,320
and then we'll continue on with a very

2733
01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:34,080
special show in the future thank you so

2734
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:35,199
much john

2735
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,719
all right thanks jimmy have a good night

2736
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:39,119
you're the best and uh that's john

2737
01:43:42,790 --> 01:43:40,000
burroughs

2738
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:42,800
and i do want to remind everybody that

2739
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:43,679
today

2740
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:47,360
uh getting uh you know into the office

2741
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:48,639
and working today

2742
01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:50,880
i get this message from john from

2743
01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:52,880
yesterday i missed it

2744
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,800
but it would have meant that last night

2745
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:56,239
john would have been on with us for five

2746
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:57,040
minutes

2747
01:44:01,430 --> 01:44:00,000
instead of 90 which is what we just did

2748
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:01,440
today john burroughs

2749
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:03,920
thank you so much this is fade to black

2750
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:04,960
okay

2751
01:44:09,669 --> 01:44:08,639
it's thursday which means it is fader

2752
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:09,679
night and that

2753
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:12,320
is open lines all night long so with

2754
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:12,960
that

2755
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:14,800
i am going to take a quick break and

2756
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:16,320
when i come back we'll get to

2757
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:19,600
all of your phone calls seven four

2758
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:23,040
seven two two eight two

2759
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:26,400
zero five one seven four seven two two

2760
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,880
eight two

2761
01:44:30,390 --> 01:44:28,480
zero five one this is faded black i'm

2762
01:44:36,140 --> 01:44:30,400
just jimmy church i'll be right back

2763
01:44:48,629 --> 01:44:46,790
[Music]

2764
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,639
welcome back paid to black thursday

2765
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:50,320
night fader night i am your host jimmy

2766
01:44:59,629 --> 01:44:52,639
church

2767
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:00,870
747-228-2051

2768
01:45:06,870 --> 01:45:04,159
and i'm just gonna say it right now

2769
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:06,880
and this is the tweet i'm about to send

2770
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,760
out

2771
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,679
i can't believe the conversation that

2772
01:45:17,590 --> 01:45:11,440
just went down with john burroughs

2773
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:17,600
you are all spoiled

2774
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:20,800
and you are you know it

2775
01:45:23,990 --> 01:45:22,960
what a conversation thank you so much

2776
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:24,000
john

2777
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:27,280
and you've given us so much

2778
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:30,480
to think about and uh the the phone

2779
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:31,679
lines are open seven

2780
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,280
four seven two two eight two zero

2781
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:38,400
five one and i'm excited

2782
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,920
i'm happy for all of you uh man if i was

2783
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,760
if i was a fate or not right now

2784
01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:45,440
listening to that

2785
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,840
ah i'd be like this this is this is what

2786
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,560
it's about

2787
01:45:52,149 --> 01:45:50,880
this is what radio is about this is what

2788
01:45:54,709 --> 01:45:52,159
disclosure is about

2789
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,719
this is the conversations that need to

2790
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:56,000
be had

2791
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:58,960
and that was with john burroughs one of

2792
01:46:02,149 --> 01:45:59,600
the most

2793
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:02,159
important people right now when it comes

2794
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:02,960
to

2795
01:46:08,470 --> 01:46:06,480
figuring out the ufo et anything

2796
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,480
phenomenal question that is going on

2797
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:10,480
right now on this planet

2798
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:13,040
that to me there are two well the rest

2799
01:46:16,709 --> 01:46:13,600
of the

2800
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:16,719
uh uh randall shim witnesses for sure

2801
01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:19,760
but but john burroughs is is so

2802
01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:20,800
important

2803
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:24,000
right there with travis walton

2804
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:25,360
and when you think about the

2805
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:28,480
documentation and the witnesses behind

2806
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:32,239
uh what went down in snowflake arizona

2807
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:35,199
with with travis and the logging crew

2808
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:36,320
that day

2809
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:39,360
and the witnesses and the testimony and

2810
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:40,719
evidence that we have from

2811
01:46:47,030 --> 01:46:43,840
rendalchim and john burroughs is

2812
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:47,040
here right now discussing it

2813
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,600
it's very special you need to you really

2814
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:51,040
need to be thankful

2815
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:52,880
and if you get a chance to reach out to

2816
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:55,600
john do just that and say john thank you

2817
01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:56,880
so much man

2818
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:00,400
all right with that let's go to the

2819
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:03,600
phones let's see who was up first

2820
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:05,360
hi you're live on fade to black who's

2821
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:07,440
calling

2822
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:09,360
hey to me it's marianne how are you hi

2823
01:47:15,189 --> 01:47:10,880
sarah and

2824
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:15,199
yeah uh what'd you think about that

2825
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,159
yeah i'm doing great can you imagine you

2826
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:19,920
know coming off a conversation like that

2827
01:47:24,870 --> 01:47:22,800
how are you doing

2828
01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:24,880
well i'm a little bit torn because i

2829
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,400
originally was calling in to tell you a

2830
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:27,679
real ghost story

2831
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:30,800
but then i mean how can i ignore that

2832
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:31,760
conversation

2833
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:34,239
you can't so you can't if it's okay with

2834
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:36,080
you and actually my ghost story could

2835
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:37,040
probably tie

2836
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,040
in to what you guys were talking about

2837
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:41,840
or at least what i want to present but

2838
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:44,000
let me just say that um i think that

2839
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,840
these conversations do need to be had

2840
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:47,679
and i love the fact that you take in all

2841
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:49,040
the different information

2842
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:51,920
and you can do it and integrate it i

2843
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:52,480
kind of

2844
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:57,920
when i hear different versions of a

2845
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:59,440
story where

2846
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:01,040
people are kind of trying to prove one

2847
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:02,560
another wrong

2848
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:04,159
or where they can't just consider

2849
01:48:10,709 --> 01:48:07,600
certain possibilities or consider that

2850
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:10,719
every perspective is actually the key

2851
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:13,920
to getting the bigger picture

2852
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:14,960
because i don't think we're gonna get to

2853
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,960
the bottom of all this i think

2854
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:18,400
well maybe getting to the bottom of all

2855
01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:19,840
of this is finding out that we're being

2856
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,880
pranked or

2857
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:22,560
you know but being able to consider all

2858
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:24,400
this with this curiosity i think is

2859
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:25,360
really

2860
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:28,320
cool i don't know all the details of of

2861
01:48:30,709 --> 01:48:30,000
the randall shim event because i start

2862
01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:30,719
to get

2863
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,719
i start to lose track of that because i

2864
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,080
i always look at something

2865
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:36,000
different like what does this all really

2866
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:37,760
mean if

2867
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:40,960
i feel every significant event that has

2868
01:48:45,590 --> 01:48:41,280
been

2869
01:48:48,709 --> 01:48:45,600
basically a training exercise

2870
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:48,719
and there are let's just say good

2871
01:48:55,189 --> 01:48:52,719
entities involved bad entities involved

2872
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:55,199
and you know a higher possibility that

2873
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:56,719
can be born when we work with both of

2874
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:58,000
those

2875
01:49:02,550 --> 01:49:00,159
so when when people are talking about

2876
01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:02,560
certain um

2877
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:04,400
you know possibilities or identities of

2878
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:06,320
beings that were present

2879
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:09,840
i think it was all that it was all of

2880
01:49:11,910 --> 01:49:11,280
that why does it have to be just one

2881
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:11,920
thing

2882
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:15,199
it it certainly doesn't it it

2883
01:49:19,589 --> 01:49:18,400
it does not you know it it always comes

2884
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:19,599
down to

2885
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:22,800
uh for me and i'm being serious about

2886
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:23,760
this sarah i

2887
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:26,800
i i swear on every bone

2888
01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:30,639
in my body that the more

2889
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:33,599
that is revealed not only on the show

2890
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:36,159
but through my own research

2891
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:39,280
that i do is that everything keeps

2892
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:42,800
going back to the same things

2893
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:46,000
and points that physicists are talking

2894
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:46,960
about

2895
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:50,960
things

2896
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:54,080
that we are we relate it all to

2897
01:49:57,669 --> 01:49:56,480
trying to figure out the paranormal of

2898
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:57,679
the supernatural

2899
01:50:01,589 --> 01:50:00,960
and and et's and uaps and ufos and

2900
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:01,599
bigfoot

2901
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,400
and ghost and life after death and ndes

2902
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:05,520
all of that

2903
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:08,880
all of those things right physicists

2904
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:12,719
are absolutely 100 percent talking about

2905
01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:13,520
the same

2906
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:17,119
research right it's

2907
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:19,679
i keep going back to it because

2908
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:20,719
everything that i hear

2909
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:24,000
john say or others

2910
01:50:31,270 --> 01:50:27,840
right i i hear physicists talk about

2911
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:31,280
and and physicists experiences i wish

2912
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:32,880
like if i had an experience like that i

2913
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:34,480
wish i was a circumstance to be able to

2914
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,639
put it into a language

2915
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:38,080
that many people that understand the

2916
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:39,440
problem is that we don't have the

2917
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,800
language of the references

2918
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,480
but when you can get two people in the

2919
01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:44,320
same room who have totally different

2920
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:46,000
areas of expertise and they can come up

2921
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:47,360
with a higher language

2922
01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:50,000
right sharing the information right from

2923
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:50,840
that

2924
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,840
right yes and and

2925
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,840
and i think that's where we are at today

2926
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:56,880
that's why

2927
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:00,159
i'm so excited i can't wait you know for

2928
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:01,360
tomorrow

2929
01:51:07,510 --> 01:51:04,960
everything is just coming out so fast

2930
01:51:08,470 --> 01:51:07,520
and and i think the data and the

2931
01:51:11,430 --> 01:51:08,480
algorithms

2932
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,440
and the research that uh not only when

2933
01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:13,440
we talk about physicists

2934
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:16,280
it's that entire part of science it's

2935
01:51:20,550 --> 01:51:18,960
astrophysicists it's astrobiologists

2936
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,560
it's astronomers

2937
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:23,360
and and physicists and and and and

2938
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:25,280
chemists in chemistry

2939
01:51:31,350 --> 01:51:28,800
all of this is is related all of it is

2940
01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:31,360
related in the science side of things

2941
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:33,440
but they're trying to figure out and

2942
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:34,960
make sense of things

2943
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,800
and that's where einstein left off he

2944
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,560
wanted a theory of everything

2945
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:41,040
right yeah that would give us all of the

2946
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,000
answers

2947
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:44,800
well that's that's science is continuing

2948
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:45,360
to push

2949
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:48,159
forward the more that they push forward

2950
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:49,599
it keeps pointing them

2951
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:52,719
into another fantastical direction that

2952
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:55,199
they may be a little bit afraid of

2953
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:58,239
but the science is pushing them in that

2954
01:52:02,229 --> 01:51:59,360
direction

2955
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:02,239
and it's the same thing with us and our

2956
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:03,599
experiences

2957
01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:05,360
we're seeing them or we're trying to get

2958
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:07,840
these answers and it keeps pushing back

2959
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,719
towards science it does yeah it's almost

2960
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:12,239
like the scientists are

2961
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:14,560
decoding the experience they're creating

2962
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,440
the language

2963
01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:17,920
or at least being able to broadcast or

2964
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:18,800
put in writing

2965
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,639
the language that's underneath all of it

2966
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:22,800
all yes that's why i think it's really

2967
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:24,239
interesting get somebody who's

2968
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:25,520
kind of woo-woo and they don't have that

2969
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:27,280
scientific background to be able to

2970
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:28,560
share an experience with somebody who's

2971
01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:30,239
more scientific and open-minded and can

2972
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:31,679
be like whoa wait a minute

2973
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:33,440
like when john was talking about talking

2974
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:35,119
to the lights

2975
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:39,280
like that like i can totally relate that

2976
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:40,800
and i know when i've spoken to other

2977
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:42,480
people who initially couldn't once i

2978
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:42,800
start

2979
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:44,960
like really trying to find the language

2980
01:52:49,270 --> 01:52:47,760
around the experience and what it's like

2981
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,280
especially my scientific friends was

2982
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:51,280
like wow yes

2983
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:52,639
and suddenly they're having these

2984
01:52:56,709 --> 01:52:55,119
experiences and it can't be explainable

2985
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:56,719
when we're open-minded about all what

2986
01:52:59,510 --> 01:52:58,159
freaks me out is

2987
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,520
all of this obsession with the

2988
01:53:02,870 --> 01:53:01,280
technology

2989
01:53:04,629 --> 01:53:02,880
because when we're just looking at how

2990
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:04,639
to create the technology we're not going

2991
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:06,800
anywhere that we want to go

2992
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:10,000
yeah and it's so funny when when i drink

2993
01:53:15,109 --> 01:53:11,760
out of uh

2994
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,119
my church of woo mug right

2995
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:17,360
and people want to talk about woo-woo

2996
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:18,159
and the woo

2997
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:20,000
and i hear it i hear it all the time

2998
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:21,440
right i hear it all the time

2999
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:24,560
you want to hear real woo-woo

3000
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:27,440
listen to a physicist you really want to

3001
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:27,840
hear

3002
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,000
real woo coming from a scientific mind

3003
01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:34,000
listen to a quantum physicist a

3004
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:36,320
theoretical physicist a physicist

3005
01:53:40,470 --> 01:53:38,480
talk about the realities of things that

3006
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:40,480
they are dealing with today

3007
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:42,639
the woo that we talk about on the show

3008
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:44,639
isn't even close

3009
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:47,920
right and they are saying hey hey

3010
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,040
this is where science is taking us

3011
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:54,400
today and yeah this is what wu's taking

3012
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:54,960
us to

3013
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:57,679
yeah that's what i'm trying to say the

3014
01:54:01,830 --> 01:53:58,080
real

3015
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:01,840
woo-woo

3016
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:04,800
is uh is is a quantum physicist telling

3017
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:05,760
you about

3018
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:08,080
uh you know multiverse multi-worlds and

3019
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:09,360
parallel worlds and

3020
01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:12,400
and multi-dimensions and and there are

3021
01:54:15,830 --> 01:54:14,080
infinite versions of you out there

3022
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,840
having conversations that you know

3023
01:54:20,470 --> 01:54:17,199
nothing about

3024
01:54:23,669 --> 01:54:22,070
it's crazy and i think of those human

3025
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,679
beings right now that because they're

3026
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:25,280
open to all possibilities

3027
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,280
they are developing the technology to

3028
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:29,840
travel now that sounds super crazy

3029
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,400
but i bet if somebody were to explain

3030
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:34,080
their experience of traveling and how

3031
01:54:38,550 --> 01:54:35,440
they got there

3032
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:38,560
a physicist would be like whoa i can

3033
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:40,400
break that down and make it make sense

3034
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:41,440
but if we're trying to just like

3035
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:43,599
replicate technology

3036
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:44,960
that's just part of like the training

3037
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:47,119
exercise from perhaps our future

3038
01:54:50,229 --> 01:54:47,760
versions

3039
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:50,239
to like get us back on track i'm just so

3040
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,760
sick of like being in this

3041
01:54:55,430 --> 01:54:54,000
horse you know what you know let's just

3042
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:55,440
get the technology and make the weapons

3043
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:56,080
it's like

3044
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:58,159
eating a dead dude horse you know i'm

3045
01:55:01,669 --> 01:55:00,080
just like come on

3046
01:55:02,950 --> 01:55:01,679
well you know there are a lot of mines

3047
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:02,960
out there that will always go in that

3048
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:05,599
direction yeah that's interesting tech

3049
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:07,760
how can we kill somebody with it you

3050
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,599
know it's it's the way it is

3051
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:11,679
sarah ann thank you so much what a great

3052
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:15,040
phone call on a fader night thank you

3053
01:55:17,910 --> 01:55:16,400
thank you for all the conversations and

3054
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:17,920
maybe a couple weeks i'll i'll call it

3055
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:18,719
michael's story

3056
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,960
i want to hear it go back lee tapping

3057
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:22,560
all right exactly

3058
01:55:29,589 --> 01:55:26,239
thanks sarah ann kicking the show off

3059
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:29,599
and uh coming in strong and

3060
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:33,040
with that let's see where we

3061
01:55:39,430 --> 01:55:37,280
are here i'm just going to go and order

3062
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:39,440
everybody uh with the with the calls

3063
01:55:44,830 --> 01:55:40,960
that came in so here we go

3064
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:47,189
calling

3065
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:50,560
hey jt how are you man i'm doing good

3066
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:51,040
man

3067
01:55:54,390 --> 01:55:53,520
great night out here what did you think

3068
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:54,400
of that you know

3069
01:55:57,589 --> 01:55:56,000
what'd you think of that conversation

3070
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:57,599
huh i

3071
01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:59,280
missed it because when i'm on hold i

3072
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:00,880
gotta shut down my

3073
01:56:04,149 --> 01:56:02,400
youtube piece i'm gonna have to listen

3074
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:04,159
to it on the replay but i was sitting

3075
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:05,760
there thinking about what a great week

3076
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:07,040
it was with

3077
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:10,320
whitley strieber and john enoch

3078
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:11,760
nick redfern i was trying to figure out

3079
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:13,440
who i put in the

3080
01:56:16,550 --> 01:56:15,520
put in the cleanup spot there you know

3081
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:16,560
well john

3082
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:18,480
is a great lead off hitter and man john

3083
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:20,000
burrows i can't wait to listen to that

3084
01:56:23,750 --> 01:56:20,880
conversation

3085
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:23,760
john burroughs 90 minutes on fader night

3086
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:24,880
surprise call

3087
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:28,159
wow yep that's great yeah man

3088
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,679
i can't wait to hear that one yeah

3089
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:31,679
you're gonna have to go back and digest

3090
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,400
that one

3091
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:34,719
and while i've got you here with this jt

3092
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:35,920
and thank you for taking the time to

3093
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:37,119
call in when you're out there on the

3094
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:38,239
open road

3095
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:41,920
uh driving your tractor trailer it is uh

3096
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:43,599
last night with nick redfern

3097
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:47,280
when you hear something like that

3098
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:50,400
put out there uh you know

3099
01:56:55,109 --> 01:56:53,440
that uh it was a a grand experiment by

3100
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:55,119
the british military

3101
01:56:58,550 --> 01:56:57,360
and that was going on in the forest that

3102
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:58,560
night and

3103
01:57:02,229 --> 01:57:01,599
the united states air force uh may have

3104
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:02,239
gotten

3105
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:05,440
in the way now that's a pretty pretty

3106
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:08,000
extraordinary book to put out there

3107
01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:09,760
well john burroughs just came on the

3108
01:57:13,910 --> 01:57:11,199
show and said hey

3109
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:13,920
you know parts of that may be correct

3110
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:14,400
that

3111
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:17,520
uh nick redford may be on to something

3112
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:21,360
and there you go now he's

3113
01:57:25,990 --> 01:57:23,920
he's uh what you know what when you hear

3114
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:26,000
something like that jt you've been

3115
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:29,520
following this this show and and the ufo

3116
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:31,920
side of things for a long time uh what

3117
01:57:36,950 --> 01:57:34,560
goes through your mind

3118
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:36,960
well i'm a healthy skeptic anyway so now

3119
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:38,320
it's kind of like being a healthy

3120
01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:40,159
skeptic on the other side like

3121
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:42,719
you know i i need more i need more proof

3122
01:57:47,669 --> 01:57:45,280
i need more i got to see you know

3123
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:47,679
and then and what you're saying i got i

3124
01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:49,520
got to hear what john said about it but

3125
01:57:53,589 --> 01:57:50,560
uh

3126
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:53,599
you know i i gotta i i'm a healthy

3127
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:55,920
skeptic that's all i can say you know

3128
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,040
and uh and that's the one

3129
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:01,840
yeah but that's the way it has to be and

3130
01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:03,440
that's my advice to

3131
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:06,560
everybody that includes myself man i try

3132
01:58:12,149 --> 01:58:08,239
to follow that

3133
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:12,159
uh look i'm i'm just like everybody

3134
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,679
i enjoy the subject i enjoy hearing from

3135
01:58:19,669 --> 01:58:17,040
experiencers

3136
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:19,679
what researchers have uncovered i like a

3137
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:22,800
good documentary like everybody does

3138
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:25,679
uh i love watching science fiction films

3139
01:58:29,270 --> 01:58:26,080
i've

3140
01:58:33,990 --> 01:58:29,280
seen things that i have seen i am fully

3141
01:58:37,669 --> 01:58:34,000
engaged fully but that being said

3142
01:58:38,629 --> 01:58:37,679
i am definitely uh always on the side of

3143
01:58:41,830 --> 01:58:38,639
skeptic

3144
01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:41,840
you have to be if you go all in on this

3145
01:58:45,109 --> 01:58:42,480
subject

3146
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:45,119
if you go all in if you believe

3147
01:58:48,470 --> 01:58:45,760
everything

3148
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:48,480
right you're you're going into a danger

3149
01:58:50,709 --> 01:58:48,960
zone

3150
01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:50,719
and in the end you're gonna get hurt you

3151
01:58:53,830 --> 01:58:52,560
gotta you like you said before you gotta

3152
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:53,840
take that step back

3153
01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:56,400
you gotta step back you want it to be

3154
01:59:00,830 --> 01:58:57,920
true it only takes one

3155
01:59:02,870 --> 01:59:00,840
it only takes one ghost one ufo one

3156
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:02,880
bigfoot but you know

3157
01:59:06,629 --> 01:59:05,760
you gotta take that step back you have

3158
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:06,639
to jt

3159
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:09,040
you have to so uh you're out there on

3160
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:10,400
the open road tonight

3161
01:59:16,709 --> 01:59:13,679
what are you hauling cream cheese

3162
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,719
no no this starch now oh yes i really

3163
01:59:21,589 --> 01:59:17,280
like

3164
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:21,599
uh

3165
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:28,320
on their account all the time now well

3166
01:59:33,750 --> 01:59:30,320
you know as a trucker

3167
01:59:35,669 --> 01:59:33,760
well as a trucker um uh before i let you

3168
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:35,679
go and i'm being serious about this

3169
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:38,239
as a trucker would you rather have a

3170
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:38,800
different

3171
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:42,159
route a surprise every day or would you

3172
01:59:45,589 --> 01:59:43,760
rather just have

3173
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:45,599
a route where you know where you're

3174
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:46,960
going in the morning

3175
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:49,199
where you're going to deliver to and in

3176
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:50,560
a consistent day

3177
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,679
which way would you rather have it in

3178
01:59:58,470 --> 01:59:54,800
the younger days

3179
01:59:59,030 --> 01:59:58,480
it was just go anyway the wind blows by

3180
02:00:00,870 --> 01:59:59,040
uh

3181
02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:00,880
that was one of my favorite songs by

3182
02:00:04,390 --> 02:00:02,560
southern pacific

3183
02:00:05,830 --> 02:00:04,400
you know whichever way the winds do

3184
02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:05,840
that's the way i wanted to go you know

3185
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:06,480
but

3186
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:09,520
nowadays you know a little bit older 61

3187
02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:10,560
now

3188
02:00:13,669 --> 02:00:12,960
having a set route that's the way to go

3189
02:00:16,229 --> 02:00:13,679
now

3190
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:16,239
there you go jt thank you for everything

3191
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:16,880
man

3192
02:00:20,709 --> 02:00:18,800
and all of the truckers out there that

3193
02:00:24,229 --> 02:00:20,719
are listening to my voice

3194
02:00:27,189 --> 02:00:24,239
you know how serious i am when i say

3195
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:27,199
thank you and i mean it jt enjoy your

3196
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:28,159
weekend my friend

3197
02:00:32,229 --> 02:00:30,960
thank you get that heart hooked up this

3198
02:00:34,390 --> 02:00:32,239
weekend

3199
02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:34,400
i'll do it and the next time you call in

3200
02:00:40,629 --> 02:00:35,599
i'll blast you

3201
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:40,639
okay all right number 624-26

3202
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:43,760
go becky everybody go beckley tappy

3203
02:00:47,750 --> 02:00:44,159
that's

3204
02:00:51,510 --> 02:00:47,760
jt from indy uh thank you so much jt

3205
02:00:52,470 --> 02:00:51,520
and i am so serious every single night

3206
02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:52,480
when i say

3207
02:00:55,669 --> 02:00:54,960
all everybody the men and the women out

3208
02:00:58,629 --> 02:00:55,679
there

3209
02:01:00,149 --> 02:00:58,639
handling the logistics of this country

3210
02:01:03,589 --> 02:01:00,159
and making sure

3211
02:01:06,709 --> 02:01:03,599
that we are fed and clothed and we have

3212
02:01:09,830 --> 02:01:06,719
everything that we need every single day

3213
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:09,840
it is because of you okay so again

3214
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:11,760
thank you from all of us here at fade to

3215
02:01:15,350 --> 02:01:13,360
black and the audience

3216
02:01:17,510 --> 02:01:15,360
we don't get a chance to say it enough

3217
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:17,520
but uh you're you're the reason why this

3218
02:01:22,470 --> 02:01:19,119
country moves forward

3219
02:01:23,189 --> 02:01:22,480
so again thank you and uh let's stay on

3220
02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:23,199
the phones

3221
02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:25,119
let's uh go right back to it hi you're

3222
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:28,320
live on fade to black who's calling

3223
02:01:33,830 --> 02:01:31,360
this is joe from virginia hi joe from

3224
02:01:35,830 --> 02:01:33,840
virginia how are you tonight

3225
02:01:37,750 --> 02:01:35,840
i'm doing great how are you i am

3226
02:01:38,070 --> 02:01:37,760
fantastic it's thursday night fader

3227
02:01:39,910 --> 02:01:38,080
night

3228
02:01:42,070 --> 02:01:39,920
i just spent 90 minutes with john

3229
02:01:44,629 --> 02:01:42,080
burroughs what did you think about that

3230
02:01:49,350 --> 02:01:44,639
conversation

3231
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:49,360
well i thought it was pretty good

3232
02:01:56,950 --> 02:01:53,280
and that's it just pretty good

3233
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:56,960
well i just wanted to bring up a couple

3234
02:02:01,030 --> 02:01:58,960
of things that uh

3235
02:02:04,470 --> 02:02:01,040
y'all didn't bring up last night when

3236
02:02:08,229 --> 02:02:04,480
you were talking with nick

3237
02:02:11,350 --> 02:02:08,239
yes uh

3238
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:11,360
what i wanted to find out uh is

3239
02:02:17,990 --> 02:02:14,960
i just wanted to make a couple of points

3240
02:02:22,790 --> 02:02:18,000
all right when they went back

3241
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:25,910
there there were three indentations in

3242
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:26,719
the ground

3243
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:29,760
that's right all right no

3244
02:02:34,310 --> 02:02:32,560
uh that wasn't brought up last night oh

3245
02:02:37,189 --> 02:02:34,320
yeah we talked about it last night

3246
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:37,199
of course oh did you yes and what what

3247
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:39,040
about the broken tree limbs

3248
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:41,040
absolutely those are that's physical

3249
02:02:44,310 --> 02:02:42,480
trace evidence and

3250
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:44,320
and if we're talking about holograms i

3251
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:45,760
brought this up with nick last night if

3252
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:47,040
we're talking about hologram some kind

3253
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:48,960
of holographic technology

3254
02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:51,360
that is a projection then how did those

3255
02:02:55,830 --> 02:02:53,280
three indentations get in the ground

3256
02:02:58,149 --> 02:02:55,840
that not only did they go back and get

3257
02:02:59,510 --> 02:02:58,159
uh castings of and photographs of and

3258
02:03:02,390 --> 02:02:59,520
they went back with

3259
02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:02,400
uh radiation detectors and geiger

3260
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:03,760
counters to

3261
02:03:07,510 --> 02:03:06,719
look at uh and get em measurements of

3262
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:07,520
the area

3263
02:03:11,750 --> 02:03:09,840
they did all of that and they also

3264
02:03:14,149 --> 02:03:11,760
photographed and documented

3265
02:03:15,270 --> 02:03:14,159
the damages to the trees that can't

3266
02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:15,280
happen

3267
02:03:19,510 --> 02:03:17,280
if it was you know something that was

3268
02:03:21,189 --> 02:03:19,520
projected which would mean and this is

3269
02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:21,199
what i said to nick last night

3270
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,320
that this is part of an elaborate hoax

3271
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:26,639
that was put on by the british military

3272
02:03:31,030 --> 02:03:28,719
and they would have had to have gone in

3273
02:03:32,470 --> 02:03:31,040
and caused this damage and made the

3274
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:32,480
imprints and

3275
02:03:36,950 --> 02:03:35,760
created a model of this triangular black

3276
02:03:39,030 --> 02:03:36,960
craft

3277
02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:39,040
in the woods and somehow got that in

3278
02:03:42,950 --> 02:03:41,280
there and out without anybody seeing

3279
02:03:46,149 --> 02:03:42,960
so yeah i brought all of this up last

3280
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:46,159
night joe and and nick realizes this

3281
02:03:52,229 --> 02:03:49,360
these are these are issues with uh

3282
02:03:53,350 --> 02:03:52,239
this being some elaborate uh experiment

3283
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:53,360
that was put on

3284
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:56,000
that you can answer with some of the uh

3285
02:04:00,790 --> 02:03:58,000
eyewitness testimony and the physical

3286
02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:00,800
evidence that is there

3287
02:04:04,470 --> 02:04:03,440
that's right and and if i remember

3288
02:04:06,470 --> 02:04:04,480
correctly

3289
02:04:08,149 --> 02:04:06,480
didn't they run the geiger counters over

3290
02:04:12,790 --> 02:04:08,159
the tree damage and

3291
02:04:16,229 --> 02:04:12,800
found uh radiation traces on that above

3292
02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:16,239
normal i believe so i i do believe that

3293
02:04:20,229 --> 02:04:16,960
is the case

3294
02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:20,239
yes and i know uh

3295
02:04:27,669 --> 02:04:24,400
they found traces uh higher than normal

3296
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:27,679
in the indentations yeah i i

3297
02:04:33,109 --> 02:04:31,040
i do believe if my memory is correct and

3298
02:04:36,550 --> 02:04:33,119
don't depend on my memory joe

3299
02:04:39,270 --> 02:04:36,560
or we all lose but oh come on

3300
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:39,280
but i i do believe that that is the case

3301
02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:39,679
that

3302
02:04:43,669 --> 02:04:42,719
uh halt uh went back went back to the

3303
02:04:46,870 --> 02:04:43,679
area

3304
02:04:49,189 --> 02:04:46,880
uh uh i don't know if halt was

3305
02:04:50,709 --> 02:04:49,199
there the day after if he led the team

3306
02:04:52,870 --> 02:04:50,719
or if somebody else did

3307
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:52,880
but uh they went back they saw the

3308
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:54,480
damage to the trees

3309
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:56,320
uh they took their measurements they

3310
02:05:00,149 --> 02:04:57,520
took photographs

3311
02:05:01,350 --> 02:05:00,159
uh they looked at the indentations i

3312
02:05:03,510 --> 02:05:01,360
think they might have made

3313
02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:03,520
castings i could be wrong about that but

3314
02:05:07,189 --> 02:05:05,199
i think that they did

3315
02:05:08,950 --> 02:05:07,199
and all of it was referenced and

3316
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:08,960
measured uh

3317
02:05:14,069 --> 02:05:11,920
for its distance so i think all of that

3318
02:05:15,350 --> 02:05:14,079
is there and it's it's been documented

3319
02:05:18,390 --> 02:05:15,360
for sure

3320
02:05:21,510 --> 02:05:18,400
how how does that come into play

3321
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:21,520
if it was holograms the only way

3322
02:05:25,669 --> 02:05:24,159
is that they went in and set it up they

3323
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:25,679
set up the scene

3324
02:05:32,950 --> 02:05:29,520
right yeah yeah exactly exactly

3325
02:05:35,430 --> 02:05:32,960
and and uh i forget the other guy

3326
02:05:36,550 --> 02:05:35,440
that were without the first night with

3327
02:05:40,149 --> 02:05:36,560
john burroughs

3328
02:05:44,069 --> 02:05:40,159
right uh adrian bustenza

3329
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:44,079
and jim peniston yeah jim penderson is

3330
02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:46,000
the one i was thinking of

3331
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:48,560
all right when he wrote down all the

3332
02:05:53,589 --> 02:05:51,520
binary code

3333
02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:53,599
yes which happened later that didn't

3334
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:56,159
happen immediately

3335
02:06:01,350 --> 02:05:59,760
uh then now jim has reached out to me

3336
02:06:03,030 --> 02:06:01,360
i'm going to let you know joe

3337
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:03,040
jim has reached out to me about coming

3338
02:06:07,510 --> 02:06:04,880
on the show so

3339
02:06:08,629 --> 02:06:07,520
we're going to get him on also next week

3340
02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:08,639
we're going to have uh

3341
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:10,880
nick pope on the show and and some other

3342
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:11,920
things

3343
02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:15,119
so yeah it's going to be great but

3344
02:06:22,229 --> 02:06:18,639
i believe that jim

3345
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:22,239
said that later not that didn't happen

3346
02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:23,840
that weekend it didn't happen at that

3347
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:24,480
instant

3348
02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:27,599
that later he was on uh

3349
02:06:35,350 --> 02:06:31,280
a bus or something like that when

3350
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:35,360
the download of the binary came to him

3351
02:06:40,229 --> 02:06:37,360
he had a notebook with him he flipped it

3352
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:40,239
open and wrote out the binary code

3353
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:42,239
okay but that didn't it didn't happen

3354
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:43,920
that weekend it happened later i don't

3355
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,440
know if it was a couple of years later

3356
02:06:50,629 --> 02:06:47,440
if it was a week later that that part

3357
02:06:52,229 --> 02:06:50,639
yeah uh it just doesn't uh come to me

3358
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:52,239
right now somebody will pop it up here

3359
02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:53,199
on twitter

3360
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:56,239
uh for me but that's when that went down

3361
02:07:02,790 --> 02:06:59,520
and then it was later decoded

3362
02:07:05,669 --> 02:07:02,800
and those messages were there the part

3363
02:07:07,189 --> 02:07:05,679
about the part about that for me joe and

3364
02:07:08,550 --> 02:07:07,199
i'm sorry for interrupting you but the

3365
02:07:11,750 --> 02:07:08,560
part for me that is

3366
02:07:12,550 --> 02:07:11,760
that is most important is that jim

3367
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:12,560
peniston

3368
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:16,239
has said uh on this show and and on

3369
02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:17,920
other broadcasts

3370
02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:22,000
that he was told by them

3371
02:07:29,430 --> 02:07:26,000
that they were us from the future

3372
02:07:31,189 --> 02:07:29,440
and he has not swayed from that he has

3373
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,199
been very clear

3374
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:34,800
it's not to be misinterpreted or

3375
02:07:41,350 --> 02:07:38,159
you know reading between the lines no

3376
02:07:45,430 --> 02:07:41,360
that they were us from

3377
02:07:49,589 --> 02:07:45,440
the future now go when we go to

3378
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:49,599
what john burroughs said tonight

3379
02:07:55,910 --> 02:07:53,040
that is a very interesting connection

3380
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:55,920
uh between their stories and one other

3381
02:07:59,430 --> 02:07:56,960
thing of note

3382
02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:59,440
i want to be very clear here and i tried

3383
02:08:04,149 --> 02:08:00,400
to make this

3384
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:04,159
clear last night that if you look at

3385
02:08:10,550 --> 02:08:07,280
everybody's individual accounts

3386
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:10,560
from rendelsham uh the names that we

3387
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:14,159
have been familiar with and others

3388
02:08:17,550 --> 02:08:16,159
that uh you know have not been in the

3389
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:17,560
public

3390
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:21,679
everybody's version of the events

3391
02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:24,880
is a little bit different

3392
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:28,480
not you know it's it's not all exactly

3393
02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:29,520
the same

3394
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:31,599
and i find that part very very

3395
02:08:34,470 --> 02:08:34,000
interesting and does that play into what

3396
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:34,480
nick

3397
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,000
redfearn was saying last night if there

3398
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:37,840
were drugs involved

3399
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:40,400
would you and i joe if you and i took

3400
02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:41,360
drugs

3401
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:43,760
does that mean together and we go to a

3402
02:08:46,629 --> 02:08:45,920
rock concert or whatever we fall asleep

3403
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:46,639
we have

3404
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:49,679
our and have dreams are we having the

3405
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:50,560
same

3406
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:53,920
experience

3407
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:55,920
no we've got two different brains in two

3408
02:09:00,870 --> 02:08:57,520
different minds

3409
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:00,880
so would that indicate what nick

3410
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,520
is writing about in his book why

3411
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:05,040
everybody's

3412
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:08,000
versions of what they witnessed are are

3413
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:08,800
different

3414
02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:11,840
but the other part about it and this is

3415
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:13,119
important

3416
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:15,280
is if there is a car accident on a

3417
02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:16,480
street corner

3418
02:09:19,750 --> 02:09:19,199
and you have 10 witnesses and the police

3419
02:09:23,669 --> 02:09:19,760
go

3420
02:09:25,910 --> 02:09:23,679
and get the uh witness statements

3421
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:25,920
they know going into it that they are

3422
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:26,880
about to get

3423
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:30,079
10 different versions of the accident

3424
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:33,360
right exactly that's it exactly

3425
02:09:36,709 --> 02:09:35,440
i got in a car accident i got in a car

3426
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:36,719
accident on the freeway

3427
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:39,920
many many many many years ago and i was

3428
02:09:43,030 --> 02:09:41,440
at the front end of this accident i

3429
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:43,040
didn't get injured or anything

3430
02:09:49,510 --> 02:09:46,400
but i witnessed everything and

3431
02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:49,520
it was crazy there was like rita would

3432
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:51,119
probably remember this but i'm going to

3433
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:52,800
say that there were 20 cars

3434
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:55,119
involved something like that wow it was

3435
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:56,400
it was crazy

3436
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:58,000
and i pulled over to the side of the

3437
02:10:02,310 --> 02:09:59,520
road and eventually

3438
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:02,320
uh it's on the freeway the highway

3439
02:10:06,149 --> 02:10:02,960
patrol

3440
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:06,159
uh gets there and they interview

3441
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:09,280
everybody a few days later and i was

3442
02:10:12,830 --> 02:10:11,119
at the front of the accident by the way

3443
02:10:16,629 --> 02:10:12,840
i saw everything go down

3444
02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:16,639
right and uh i got my headlight got

3445
02:10:19,669 --> 02:10:17,360
broken off

3446
02:10:20,550 --> 02:10:19,679
uh by some car you know no big deal but

3447
02:10:22,550 --> 02:10:20,560
i pulled over

3448
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:22,560
a couple of days later the highway

3449
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:24,400
patrol calls me back and says you know

3450
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:26,000
mr church

3451
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:29,440
uh i'm having an issue here i've got

3452
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:32,960
20 drivers 20 stories

3453
02:10:40,950 --> 02:10:39,990
and i said hey you know i can only tell

3454
02:10:43,750 --> 02:10:40,960
you

3455
02:10:45,109 --> 02:10:43,760
what i saw he goes it's absolutely

3456
02:10:46,390 --> 02:10:45,119
extraordinary i don't know what we're

3457
02:10:48,229 --> 02:10:46,400
going to do with this i think we're just

3458
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:48,239
going to throw our arms up in the air

3459
02:10:52,149 --> 02:10:48,800
and

3460
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,159
not changing my story man

3461
02:10:56,069 --> 02:10:54,239
you know what i saw was what i saw and

3462
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:56,079
that's just the way it is joe

3463
02:11:02,470 --> 02:10:59,119
it's just the way that it is

3464
02:11:06,629 --> 02:11:02,480
well when they decoded that

3465
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:06,639
uh also that binary code

3466
02:11:13,669 --> 02:11:10,400
didn't that lead to a point

3467
02:11:17,350 --> 02:11:13,679
out in the ocean off

3468
02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:17,360
ireland uh i have

3469
02:11:24,629 --> 02:11:20,719
i have no idea i'm reading uh the

3470
02:11:29,390 --> 02:11:24,639
uh the translation here exploit

3471
02:11:33,270 --> 02:11:29,400
exploration of humanity uh 8100

3472
02:11:36,790 --> 02:11:33,280
5209 north 0313 west

3473
02:11:39,669 --> 02:11:36,800
continuous for planetary advance

3474
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:39,679
fourth coordinate continuous before then

3475
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:41,280
i'm looking at all of these uh

3476
02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:43,599
i just hiccuped in the in the microphone

3477
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:45,280
by the way that's what that was

3478
02:11:49,510 --> 02:11:47,840
eyes of your eyes there are a bunch of

3479
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,520
coordinates here

3480
02:11:53,030 --> 02:11:51,599
there's one two three four five six

3481
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:53,040
seven eight

3482
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:55,920
uh so there you go and it says origin

3483
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:56,400
year

3484
02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:59,119
8100 i haven't punched in these

3485
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:01,360
coordinates i'm sure that others have

3486
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:04,000
in the past um if anybody knows where

3487
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:04,639
these

3488
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:07,920
coordinates are leading to uh let's see

3489
02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:08,800
belize

3490
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:12,320
arizona egypt peru china

3491
02:12:20,470 --> 02:12:16,560
and apollo in naxxos whatever that means

3492
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:20,480
and also brazil yeah i don't see ireland

3493
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:21,599
here

3494
02:12:28,310 --> 02:12:24,880
so okay uh i i i

3495
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:28,320
saw somewhere going over this

3496
02:12:35,589 --> 02:12:32,560
hey joe i've only got 10 seconds okay

3497
02:12:39,510 --> 02:12:35,599
well uh it was uh

3498
02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:39,520
an island that was in mythology

3499
02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:47,189
yo you're talking about high brazil

3500
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,840
yeah that's it hi brazil and maybe

3501
02:12:54,229 --> 02:12:51,440
that's what this says here it says

3502
02:12:55,109 --> 02:12:54,239
i brazil instead of high brazil well

3503
02:12:56,950 --> 02:12:55,119
there you go joe

3504
02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:56,960
thank you for the phone call enjoy your

3505
02:13:02,229 --> 02:13:00,239
weekend and go back lee tappy

3506
02:13:03,830 --> 02:13:02,239
go back please that's what i'm talking

3507
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:03,840
about that is joe

3508
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:07,040
in virginia this is fade to black i

3509
02:13:11,669 --> 02:13:09,520
am your host jimmy church we're going to

3510
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:11,679
take a quick break right here

3511
02:13:15,109 --> 02:13:14,320
it's fader night it's open lines all

3512
02:13:18,069 --> 02:13:15,119
night long

3513
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:18,079
i've got lots of calls on hold and if

3514
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,440
you are there stay right there but i

3515
02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:21,199
will get to everybody after this short

3516
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,560
break i promise

3517
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:23,840
all right that means i'm going to cut a

3518
02:13:27,430 --> 02:13:25,920
lot of people short i like that

3519
02:13:43,830 --> 02:13:27,440
sometimes

3520
02:13:47,350 --> 02:13:45,589
welcome back fade to black thursday

3521
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:47,360
night fader nights

3522
02:13:51,189 --> 02:13:49,119
a little different tonight wasn't it

3523
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:51,199
john burroughs came in

3524
02:13:56,470 --> 02:13:53,760
90 minutes of amazing conversation

3525
02:13:59,910 --> 02:13:56,480
talking about nick redfern's new book

3526
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:59,920
the shim forest conspiracy and i knew

3527
02:14:02,149 --> 02:14:01,360
that the phones were going to heat up

3528
02:14:04,149 --> 02:14:02,159
tonight

3529
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:04,159
and i expected that and i want to thank

3530
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:06,000
everybody for uh sticking in there and

3531
02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:07,040
staying on hold

3532
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:08,719
and uh let's just keep it going hi

3533
02:14:12,790 --> 02:14:10,840
you're live on fade to black who's

3534
02:14:16,470 --> 02:14:12,800
calling

3535
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:16,480
you're live yes you're live hello

3536
02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:19,760
uh this is kind of off topic but uh

3537
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:22,880
i feel like uh i i sense that you have

3538
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:24,800
jordan maxwell's

3539
02:14:28,709 --> 02:14:26,960
phone number and he's a national

3540
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:28,719
treasure and i was thinking

3541
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:31,599
maybe you could give him a call to just

3542
02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:33,520
make sure he's all right

3543
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:36,320
and let us know afterwards you want me

3544
02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:37,119
to call him right

3545
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:40,800
you

3546
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:45,440
wait is there something out there that's

3547
02:14:50,069 --> 02:14:47,760
indicating that there's a reason why we

3548
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:50,079
should be concerned

3549
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:53,119
he's a 79 year old man yep

3550
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:56,239
he's he's he's in the target zone

3551
02:15:01,990 --> 02:14:59,840
this covered 19 thing and

3552
02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:02,000
i live in a zip code which i will not

3553
02:15:06,870 --> 02:15:03,119
disclose

3554
02:15:10,069 --> 02:15:06,880
that has cove 19 numbers

3555
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:10,079
only on the rise and um

3556
02:15:13,910 --> 02:15:13,119
well i would i would say that any virus

3557
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:13,920
is scared

3558
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:17,760
of jordan maxwell how's that i hope so

3559
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:20,880
yeah i hope so okay well

3560
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:24,239
uh i'll uh i i can reach out to jordan i

3561
02:15:28,870 --> 02:15:27,040
i will certainly do that and i'll see

3562
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:28,880
what i can report back to everybody on

3563
02:15:33,910 --> 02:15:31,119
monday how's that

3564
02:15:34,870 --> 02:15:33,920
i would love that and your show's great

3565
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:34,880
i listen

3566
02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:38,639
every day and um i'm not afraid or not

3567
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:39,840
yet

3568
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:43,199
that's uh finances no you don't have to

3569
02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:45,040
you don't have to have finances to be a

3570
02:15:47,910 --> 02:15:46,960
fate or not you have to just call into

3571
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:47,920
this show

3572
02:15:51,189 --> 02:15:50,560
and say fate or not so there you go all

3573
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,199
right

3574
02:15:56,149 --> 02:15:53,599
well go back late pepe go back late

3575
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:56,159
happy you have a great night

3576
02:16:01,270 --> 02:15:59,280
have a great one thank you thank you and

3577
02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:01,280
uh that that's a great phone call right

3578
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:02,800
there you don't have to

3579
02:16:07,910 --> 02:16:05,520
really know as a matter of fact uh for

3580
02:16:10,390 --> 02:16:07,920
anybody that's listening out there

3581
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:10,400
uh you can sign up to become an official

3582
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:11,119
fade or not

3583
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:13,360
we have a whole free version right there

3584
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:15,520
where you can just go and do it

3585
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:19,280
and uh we set that up just for you

3586
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:22,079
and oh i could have given her a free

3587
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:23,599
account

3588
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:26,880
uh if you are listening right now

3589
02:16:33,750 --> 02:16:30,400
i i didn't get your name write me

3590
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:33,760
jimmy at jimmychurchradio okay

3591
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:36,000
and i think i've gotten an email from

3592
02:16:40,070 --> 02:16:38,000
her before

3593
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:40,080
and she knows what i'm talking about so

3594
02:16:44,150 --> 02:16:41,439
she can go

3595
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:44,160
and just write me back and i will set

3596
02:16:50,150 --> 02:16:47,280
you up with a fade to black membership

3597
02:16:51,669 --> 02:16:50,160
see that's how we do it here on fade to

3598
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:51,679
blacks let's go back to the phones hi

3599
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:52,880
you're live on fade to black who's

3600
02:16:56,629 --> 02:16:54,639
calling

3601
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:56,639
this is david christopher jimmy hey

3602
02:17:02,070 --> 02:16:59,599
david hi christopher how are you

3603
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:02,080
hey not bad not bad i think i sent you a

3604
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:03,280
couple of tweets uh

3605
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:06,559
in past uh regarding the uh

3606
02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:13,750
i think that was uh about two weeks ago

3607
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:14,240
okay

3608
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:16,960
or i think last week so but anyway that

3609
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:18,559
that's not what i want to talk to

3610
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:21,200
uh to you about tonight uh tonight i

3611
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:22,319
wanted to uh

3612
02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:24,960
discuss and by the way first time caller

3613
02:17:28,790 --> 02:17:26,160
long time listener

3614
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:28,800
yeah and i i can't wait to hear you say

3615
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:31,439
go back lee tappy

3616
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:33,760
okay well we'll we'll save that for the

3617
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:34,639
end uh

3618
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:37,599
so but uh i wanted to just uh go over

3619
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:39,280
the uh the mars launching

3620
02:17:42,870 --> 02:17:42,000
the the the nasa launching the mars

3621
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:42,880
helicopter

3622
02:17:45,990 --> 02:17:45,280
yeah yeah yeah yeah and that that whole

3623
02:17:49,030 --> 02:17:46,000
deal

3624
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:49,040
uh now it's it's crazy that

3625
02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:52,479
people think that okay uh them launching

3626
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:54,880
just one single helicopter

3627
02:18:01,030 --> 02:17:58,319
like that's all it is uh that's

3628
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:01,040
bs that you know that that's gonna be uh

3629
02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:03,120
uh a smoke in mirrors and i think i

3630
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:05,840
put that on my twitter feed as well uh

3631
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:07,439
what it really is in my opinion

3632
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:10,639
okay and i'm just speaking for myself

3633
02:18:16,709 --> 02:18:14,639
uh the the it's smoking mirrors

3634
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:16,719
and they probably got like 10 other

3635
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:19,519
helicopters like exploring all these uh

3636
02:18:23,589 --> 02:18:22,240
ancient ruins that are already there uh

3637
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:23,599
this is something i believe that

3638
02:18:27,509 --> 02:18:24,479
actually

3639
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:27,519
exists uh which is why there's so

3640
02:18:31,830 --> 02:18:30,160
much uh uh communication problems uh

3641
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:31,840
when they have these probes go to mars

3642
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:33,200
and then magically they

3643
02:18:36,309 --> 02:18:35,359
you know like you were saying uh they're

3644
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:36,319
exploring like

3645
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:38,000
the middle of nowhere like a desert

3646
02:18:40,709 --> 02:18:39,439
right like there's nothing there why

3647
02:18:43,030 --> 02:18:40,719
don't you go to like the

3648
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:43,040
the you know the polls where there is

3649
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:44,800
water and stuff like that

3650
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:48,080
so um i just i'm just

3651
02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:49,920
sharing my analysis of that whole

3652
02:18:54,709 --> 02:18:52,160
situation so you're i i

3653
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:54,719
think you kind of share my vision of

3654
02:18:59,349 --> 02:18:56,880
frustration then

3655
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:59,359
oh yeah absolutely absolutely because i

3656
02:19:02,870 --> 02:19:00,639
i think that

3657
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:02,880
uh it's a disservice to people in

3658
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:04,960
general uh i mean taxpayers

3659
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:07,679
especially uh because we're paying money

3660
02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:08,559
for them to

3661
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:12,399
to explore our solar system

3662
02:19:16,150 --> 02:19:14,080
and the results that we're getting is

3663
02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:16,160
like secrets and lies you know

3664
02:19:19,589 --> 02:19:18,080
well that's and that's what i've been on

3665
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:19,599
about david that's what i've been on

3666
02:19:22,469 --> 02:19:21,519
about and there's another part to this

3667
02:19:25,429 --> 02:19:22,479
too

3668
02:19:27,589 --> 02:19:25,439
is when and this is where i hate to

3669
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:27,599
always go conspiracy right to go just

3670
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:28,639
full-on

3671
02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:31,359
tinfoil hat but when now unfortunately

3672
02:19:34,549 --> 02:19:32,080
it's part of it

3673
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:34,559
it's part of the game right and so when

3674
02:19:38,629 --> 02:19:35,599
nasa says

3675
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:38,639
well this is just a demo helicopter and

3676
02:19:42,070 --> 02:19:41,679
there's no instruments on board i see

3677
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:42,080
that

3678
02:19:45,750 --> 02:19:43,760
and then i go well of course there's

3679
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:45,760
instruments on board

3680
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:48,399
you know you've always got to take that

3681
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:49,040
view

3682
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:51,120
and that's the frustrating part i i

3683
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:52,240
don't think that they've

3684
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:55,120
ever been up front with us i appreciate

3685
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,080
the work

3686
02:20:01,030 --> 02:19:58,720
i appreciate that the efforts of getting

3687
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:01,040
things to mars and saturn and

3688
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,160
and titan flybys and and uh

3689
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:06,960
and the pluto stuff last year was just

3690
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:08,080
absolutely crazy

3691
02:20:11,349 --> 02:20:10,160
all of that stuff is just great i i

3692
02:20:14,469 --> 02:20:11,359
appreciate it

3693
02:20:17,750 --> 02:20:14,479
but there's a thing called ice

3694
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:17,760
water ice on mars

3695
02:20:21,830 --> 02:20:19,170
let's go there

3696
02:20:24,150 --> 02:20:21,840
[Laughter]

3697
02:20:25,990 --> 02:20:24,160
don't you don't you want to see the snow

3698
02:20:27,910 --> 02:20:26,000
on mars don't you want to see that for

3699
02:20:29,990 --> 02:20:27,920
yourself absolutely

3700
02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:30,000
absolutely but you know like i said they

3701
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:30,960
they're

3702
02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:32,720
they they have an agenda they already

3703
02:20:36,309 --> 02:20:34,000
know what's there

3704
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:36,319
uh they have known for the past what 20

3705
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:37,920
years since they've been sending probes

3706
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:38,399
out there

3707
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:40,240
i think so why there's so much secrecy

3708
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:41,520
behind everything

3709
02:20:47,510 --> 02:20:45,040
so um so yeah it's it's uh but yeah

3710
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:47,520
the just a single helicopter with no

3711
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:48,160
cameras

3712
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:51,600
no no hd camera come on man

3713
02:20:56,790 --> 02:20:53,680
and check this out check this out i

3714
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:56,800
tried to make my point very clear david

3715
02:21:04,070 --> 02:21:00,640
and that is this the only reason to

3716
02:21:06,550 --> 02:21:04,080
have a drone is so you can watch the

3717
02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:06,560
freaking video that you shoot with it

3718
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:09,920
and having a drone on mars

3719
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:13,280
from 16 feet uh flying around

3720
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:16,000
the rover and showing us the high def

3721
02:21:21,110 --> 02:21:17,280
images of that

3722
02:21:23,910 --> 02:21:21,120
is bleep and cool and we deserve to see

3723
02:21:24,469 --> 02:21:23,920
that footage that's why you i'm doing

3724
02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:24,479
with you

3725
02:21:30,070 --> 02:21:27,840
man man man i'm so disappointed in nasa

3726
02:21:32,309 --> 02:21:30,080
i i just i cannot believe it

3727
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,319
i want to see the test flights and this

3728
02:21:37,190 --> 02:21:34,479
is the other thing

3729
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:37,200
the high def video for mars we get high

3730
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,000
def

3731
02:21:44,230 --> 02:21:41,040
images right but but like video

3732
02:21:47,349 --> 02:21:44,240
from mars i don't want to see

3733
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:47,359
images of the drone off in the distance

3734
02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:50,080
you know who cares taking pictures of

3735
02:21:53,830 --> 02:21:50,399
the

3736
02:21:54,550 --> 02:21:53,840
of that photo you know that if i posted

3737
02:21:57,429 --> 02:21:54,560
pictures

3738
02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:57,439
on twitter let's be very clear if i

3739
02:22:01,510 --> 02:21:59,840
posted pictures on twitter of my drone

3740
02:22:05,110 --> 02:22:01,520
sitting on the ground

3741
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:05,120
who is going to care

3742
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:08,319
no but what is that i want to take a

3743
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:09,120
picture of my

3744
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:12,399
shoe oh wow the news anyway

3745
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:15,040
that's what i'm saying what's what's the

3746
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:15,680
you know what

3747
02:22:19,270 --> 02:22:18,399
what's the interest in that let's see

3748
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:19,280
the high

3749
02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:22,720
dev video of the drone flying around

3750
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:23,439
mars

3751
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:25,600
that's it well you know what i i say it

3752
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:27,439
should be we should get elon musk

3753
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:30,479
to to take over this project okay and he

3754
02:22:33,830 --> 02:22:32,080
like make it happen

3755
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,840
he can do it make it happen and you know

3756
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:35,120
what is there still

3757
02:22:41,270 --> 02:22:38,319
time to add you know

3758
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:41,280
i have i have a drone here it's over

3759
02:22:43,510 --> 02:22:41,760
there

3760
02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:43,520
i i don't have the time to go get it but

3761
02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:44,880
i have you know a small

3762
02:22:48,550 --> 02:22:47,840
drone here in the bunker just a little

3763
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:48,560
drone

3764
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:52,080
it's got a tiny little 1080p high def

3765
02:22:55,349 --> 02:22:54,960
camera on it right to shoot video that

3766
02:22:57,510 --> 02:22:55,359
thing

3767
02:22:59,510 --> 02:22:57,520
weighs i don't know the whole drone

3768
02:23:01,349 --> 02:22:59,520
weighs a couple of ounces

3769
02:23:02,630 --> 02:23:01,359
that's it right i don't know what the

3770
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:02,640
weight is on that

3771
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:04,960
camera that's on the inside of that but

3772
02:23:09,270 --> 02:23:06,479
there is no reason why

3773
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:09,280
that simple camera a 1080p it's not even

3774
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:10,399
4k

3775
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:13,359
throw that on that drone what what what

3776
02:23:18,230 --> 02:23:13,840
is that

3777
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:18,240
i don't well i forget the percentages

3778
02:23:21,190 --> 02:23:19,120
but you the

3779
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:21,200
the weight is less so i think it's like

3780
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,439
something like 100 kilograms uh

3781
02:23:28,309 --> 02:23:25,120
i can't look online because i'm on the

3782
02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:28,319
phone but uh but if you're 100 kilograms

3783
02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:28,960
here

3784
02:23:32,389 --> 02:23:31,040
on mars you're gonna be like 78

3785
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:32,399
kilograms something like that

3786
02:23:35,429 --> 02:23:34,080
that's right that's right that's like

3787
02:23:38,070 --> 02:23:35,439
highly significant

3788
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:38,080
but you know it's it's definitely uh

3789
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:39,760
something that you can work around

3790
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:42,800
and send possibly you know even more

3791
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:45,359
bigger cameras on your your drone while

3792
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:46,319
it's there

3793
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:49,920
to you know do uh uh the flybys the the

3794
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:52,240
you know the flying around that's right

3795
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:53,600
that's right and so

3796
02:23:57,030 --> 02:23:55,600
david david do you bring up the best

3797
02:24:00,070 --> 02:23:57,040
point of all

3798
02:24:03,830 --> 02:24:00,080
nasa says that this helicopter weighs

3799
02:24:06,070 --> 02:24:03,840
three pounds okay so you tell me

3800
02:24:07,030 --> 02:24:06,080
you tell me the difference between three

3801
02:24:14,710 --> 02:24:07,040
pounds

3802
02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:14,720
whatever it is bs

3803
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:18,080
yeah the difference is the bs

3804
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:20,399
hey david enjoy your weekend man give me

3805
02:24:25,030 --> 02:24:22,720
a go beckley tappy with that voice

3806
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:25,040
all right well absolutely go beckley

3807
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:26,479
tepee that's what i'm talking about

3808
02:24:30,070 --> 02:24:28,240
david have a great weekend we'll see on

3809
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:30,080
monday

3810
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:32,399
youtube jimmy thank you thank you that's

3811
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:34,000
a great phone call right there

3812
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:37,439
fader knots are the best never forget

3813
02:24:42,309 --> 02:24:40,319
how cool the fader knots are and with

3814
02:24:45,190 --> 02:24:42,319
that let's see

3815
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:45,200
who is coming up now hi you're live i'm

3816
02:24:57,349 --> 02:24:52,550
you're live three

3817
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:57,359
two one oh i hate to do this

3818
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:59,760
but i just did okay i'm just gonna go

3819
02:25:04,550 --> 02:25:00,880
next i'm going

3820
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:04,560
in order uh let's see

3821
02:25:13,990 --> 02:25:10,790
hi you're live on fade to black who's

3822
02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:17,349
you're live you're live jimmy

3823
02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:20,800
yes hey it's brother bob out here in

3824
02:25:26,150 --> 02:25:21,840
edmonton alberta

3825
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:26,160
how are you tonight

3826
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:29,200
oh i gotta tell you man

3827
02:25:34,389 --> 02:25:32,800
i i missed i missed the first 90 minutes

3828
02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:34,399
so i'm gonna have to go back and give it

3829
02:25:39,670 --> 02:25:36,319
a listen

3830
02:25:43,510 --> 02:25:39,680
but uh what if what if he

3831
02:25:43,910 --> 02:25:43,520
wrote that book so everybody would do

3832
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:43,920
more

3833
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:47,520
digging to make randallsham

3834
02:25:52,469 --> 02:25:51,520
more truthful how would you even do that

3835
02:25:55,510 --> 02:25:52,479
at this point

3836
02:25:56,469 --> 02:25:55,520
and i i don't know i i don't know i i

3837
02:25:59,270 --> 02:25:56,479
you know

3838
02:26:01,190 --> 02:25:59,280
um but that's not why i called okay why

3839
02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:01,200
did you call bob i got a full

3840
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:07,670
mandela effect that happened to me today

3841
02:26:17,190 --> 02:26:14,070
okay so how long have you been in la uh

3842
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:17,200
1984. cool so

3843
02:26:20,870 --> 02:26:20,319
did you go were you at the last no more

3844
02:26:24,230 --> 02:26:20,880
tours

3845
02:26:27,270 --> 02:26:24,240
tour for aussie at costa mesa

3846
02:26:30,309 --> 02:26:27,280
in november 15 1992 were you there

3847
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:30,319
oh no not 1992 no no i didn't i didn't

3848
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:31,920
see that tour

3849
02:26:35,750 --> 02:26:34,640
okay so it was the no more tourist tour

3850
02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:35,760
and that was

3851
02:26:39,670 --> 02:26:37,840
right saturday night i couldn't get

3852
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:39,680
tickets

3853
02:26:43,110 --> 02:26:41,680
they didn't the boys didn't get together

3854
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:43,120
the four of them didn't get together

3855
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:44,560
they didn't do the

3856
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:46,560
the four songs and sunday night they did

3857
02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:49,040
the four songs

3858
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:52,160
i was 28 years old i'm 54 yesterday two

3859
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:52,960
days ago

3860
02:27:03,349 --> 02:26:59,270
all these years jimmy it was

3861
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:03,359
war pigs it was

3862
02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:05,120
paranoid they played four song they

3863
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:06,880
played four songs at the end they played

3864
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:08,640
war pigs and let me guess they played

3865
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:09,520
iron man

3866
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:11,680
right they played ferris where bruce and

3867
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:12,720
perry paranoid

3868
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:20,790
this is gonna get good wait a minute

3869
02:27:26,710 --> 02:27:26,389
stop for a second yeah are you saying

3870
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:26,720
that

3871
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:30,720
your memory says war pigs iron man

3872
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:33,840
fairies wear boots paranoid you saw it

3873
02:27:38,070 --> 02:27:36,720
it was amazing and it was a great night

3874
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:38,080
that you'll never forget

3875
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:41,680
right i was there people people go to

3876
02:27:44,469 --> 02:27:42,399
bob

3877
02:27:46,550 --> 02:27:44,479
to find out the truth okay i got you

3878
02:27:48,070 --> 02:27:46,560
baby remember this do you remember this

3879
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:48,080
i did this and i'm like yeah man i

3880
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:49,600
remember that day i remember the song

3881
02:27:51,670 --> 02:27:50,960
that was playing it was two in the

3882
02:27:55,590 --> 02:27:51,680
morning

3883
02:27:58,950 --> 02:27:55,600
it was iron man remember that i feel ya

3884
02:28:00,950 --> 02:27:58,960
okay what happened would you find out

3885
02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:00,960
okay my heart is racing man like i was

3886
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:03,120
in i my wife called after

3887
02:28:07,429 --> 02:28:05,920
i found so chanters been posting these

3888
02:28:10,309 --> 02:28:07,439
these old videos right

3889
02:28:12,230 --> 02:28:10,319
so i wanted to outdo them so i looked

3890
02:28:16,870 --> 02:28:12,240
for the video

3891
02:28:24,830 --> 02:28:21,110
costa mesa 1992 no more tours

3892
02:28:27,750 --> 02:28:24,840
you were there you see the video what

3893
02:28:28,630 --> 02:28:27,760
happens the first song was black sabbath

3894
02:28:32,309 --> 02:28:28,640
black sabbath

3895
02:28:35,349 --> 02:28:32,319
oh no way

3896
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,359
okay what was the next song since i was

3897
02:28:39,349 --> 02:28:36,960
28 years old

3898
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:39,359
i've been telling people the story about

3899
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:40,800
the four songs

3900
02:28:44,630 --> 02:28:42,640
like i'm freaking out right now i was in

3901
02:28:46,150 --> 02:28:44,640
tears trying to explain it to my wife

3902
02:28:50,389 --> 02:28:46,160
today like i was

3903
02:28:53,270 --> 02:28:50,399
like almost in a psychotic break oh man

3904
02:28:53,990 --> 02:28:53,280
because it was so overwhelming because

3905
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:54,000
sabbath is my

3906
02:28:59,670 --> 02:28:57,359
band matt like that's it yeah

3907
02:29:01,349 --> 02:28:59,680
yeah yeah what were the other wait wait

3908
02:29:01,910 --> 02:29:01,359
what were the other three songs what did

3909
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:01,920
they leave

3910
02:29:08,150 --> 02:29:04,960
off they they left out

3911
02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:08,160
uh war pigs okay so did it start with

3912
02:29:11,510 --> 02:29:10,000
warping it started with black sabbath

3913
02:29:15,110 --> 02:29:11,520
but i got to sit down hold on

3914
02:29:17,830 --> 02:29:15,120
okay so it's black sabbath what was next

3915
02:29:18,469 --> 02:29:17,840
it was black sabbath and it was iron man

3916
02:29:20,630 --> 02:29:18,479
right then

3917
02:29:21,590 --> 02:29:20,640
oh sorry no it was black sabbath fairies

3918
02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:21,600
wear boots

3919
02:29:27,590 --> 02:29:25,760
iron man then paranoid wow

3920
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,600
i'm kind of doing it i'm looking at the

3921
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:29,520
video like they have the

3922
02:29:33,110 --> 02:29:32,560
the credits whoever who whoever made the

3923
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,120
video

3924
02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:35,200
you can look it up on on youtube it's

3925
02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:36,880
there right and it says

3926
02:29:40,469 --> 02:29:39,760
allison chains allison chains wasn't

3927
02:29:43,990 --> 02:29:40,479
there

3928
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:44,000
it was sepultura black sabbath with rob

3929
02:29:51,429 --> 02:29:45,760
halford singing

3930
02:29:58,550 --> 02:29:55,270
no allison cheese wasn't there man

3931
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:58,560
are you sure you were there oh god

3932
02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:01,120
you know what i got to this day i have a

3933
02:30:05,510 --> 02:30:02,560
one there were these crazy

3934
02:30:07,349 --> 02:30:05,520
we met these guys these spanish guys

3935
02:30:08,790 --> 02:30:07,359
mexican guys they were so freaking cool

3936
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:08,800
we were smoking black cash that we

3937
02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:10,399
smuggled across the border blah blah

3938
02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:11,120
blah whatever

3939
02:30:14,469 --> 02:30:13,760
not supposed to do that right and uh

3940
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:14,479
they were so

3941
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:17,120
amazed that we had this hash and they

3942
02:30:20,550 --> 02:30:17,600
were

3943
02:30:21,110 --> 02:30:20,560
and and these guys beside us started a

3944
02:30:24,550 --> 02:30:21,120
huge

3945
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:24,560
fire like big fires in the in the

3946
02:30:27,349 --> 02:30:25,760
festival seating

3947
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:27,359
these guys are beating the crap out of

3948
02:30:29,030 --> 02:30:28,560
each other and i get hit in the head

3949
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:29,040
with a

3950
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:33,840
off somebody's wrist i still have the

3951
02:30:37,190 --> 02:30:35,120
watch it's in a drawer

3952
02:30:38,309 --> 02:30:37,200
did you see did you see the whole show

3953
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,319
do you remember that

3954
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:40,720
absolutely i was there we got there it

3955
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,160
was so wild because

3956
02:30:45,590 --> 02:30:44,080
we're canadians you can't buy beer in a

3957
02:30:47,590 --> 02:30:45,600
7-eleven right

3958
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,600
we walk into a 7-eleven we buy a couple

3959
02:30:51,670 --> 02:30:49,600
of tall boys put them in

3960
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:51,680
brown paper bags and we're walking to

3961
02:30:58,230 --> 02:30:54,640
the show how was sepultura

3962
02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:58,240
simple true i'd never seen them

3963
02:31:04,550 --> 02:31:01,280
still never seen them they were good

3964
02:31:05,750 --> 02:31:04,560
they're amazing the vocals the vocals

3965
02:31:09,030 --> 02:31:05,760
and i'm not that

3966
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:09,040
that vocal guy oh

3967
02:31:12,150 --> 02:31:10,640
okay no i hear what you're saying but

3968
02:31:15,990 --> 02:31:12,160
sepultura

3969
02:31:16,550 --> 02:31:16,000
to this day they do absolutely man those

3970
02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:16,560
guys

3971
02:31:23,110 --> 02:31:19,920
kill it and but then rob halford came on

3972
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:23,120
singing with sabbath right and

3973
02:31:27,830 --> 02:31:26,080
they did a full you know uh not a

3974
02:31:28,309 --> 02:31:27,840
90-minute set but it was an hour long

3975
02:31:31,429 --> 02:31:28,319
because

3976
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:31,439
what ronnie said i'm never gonna i i

3977
02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:33,280
can't take the stage with aussie

3978
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:34,640
i think it was something like that it

3979
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:36,880
was on the radio and that was the first

3980
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:38,560
time i ever heard

3981
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:41,680
rob halford sing light

3982
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:44,240
fades into black or light turns in how

3983
02:31:47,590 --> 02:31:46,479
does that goes off the buffy the vampire

3984
02:31:50,150 --> 02:31:47,600
slayer soundtrack

3985
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:50,160
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like oh my god

3986
02:31:56,230 --> 02:31:53,120
driving down sunset boulevard

3987
02:32:00,230 --> 02:31:56,240
wow and uh and that was

3988
02:32:03,510 --> 02:32:00,240
ozzie with zack wilde yes

3989
02:32:05,830 --> 02:32:03,520
what a show man it was yeah and

3990
02:32:07,510 --> 02:32:05,840
and i was all freaked out because i

3991
02:32:09,190 --> 02:32:07,520
didn't get the saturday night tickets

3992
02:32:10,790 --> 02:32:09,200
and i'm thinking oh god they're gonna do

3993
02:32:12,230 --> 02:32:10,800
it on saturday night because everybody's

3994
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:12,240
probably gonna have to go to work on

3995
02:32:17,990 --> 02:32:13,280
sunday and

3996
02:32:20,150 --> 02:32:18,000
ward was smiling ear to ear

3997
02:32:21,429 --> 02:32:20,160
and i knew i knew there was gonna be a

3998
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:21,439
tour after that i was

3999
02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:23,680
i was okay with that well see i knew

4000
02:32:27,270 --> 02:32:24,960
there was going to be something

4001
02:32:29,030 --> 02:32:27,280
yeah i love the universe uh connecting

4002
02:32:30,790 --> 02:32:29,040
us right now because that was going to

4003
02:32:34,150 --> 02:32:30,800
be my next comment

4004
02:32:37,670 --> 02:32:34,160
uh was bill ward because that was

4005
02:32:38,790 --> 02:32:37,680
uh bill ward who has had health issues

4006
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:38,800
over the years

4007
02:32:45,910 --> 02:32:42,240
yeah but yeah but that that era

4008
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:45,920
of of bill and and what went down in 92

4009
02:32:49,190 --> 02:32:48,240
he not only came back but he was like in

4010
02:32:52,150 --> 02:32:49,200
some of his best

4011
02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:52,160
form ever in the history of his career

4012
02:32:55,190 --> 02:32:52,800
and he was

4013
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:55,200
hammering it he was he absolutely built

4014
02:33:00,230 --> 02:32:57,120
like 10 sheds

4015
02:33:01,429 --> 02:33:00,240
like you know [\h__\h] just pounding

4016
02:33:04,150 --> 02:33:01,439
those buggers

4017
02:33:05,349 --> 02:33:04,160
and the smile on his face yep and it was

4018
02:33:10,309 --> 02:33:05,359
just so

4019
02:33:12,790 --> 02:33:10,319
awesomely wicked and i i i can't

4020
02:33:13,750 --> 02:33:12,800
i'm i'm just overwhelmed and i was so

4021
02:33:15,349 --> 02:33:13,760
freaked out today

4022
02:33:18,070 --> 02:33:15,359
and i don't know what about the i you

4023
02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:18,080
know uh the the whole black sabbath

4024
02:33:23,590 --> 02:33:20,560
instead of uh uh

4025
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:23,600
iron man which not iron man the war

4026
02:33:29,750 --> 02:33:26,720
pigs uh that that's a concern for me

4027
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:29,760
and that in of itself is well but that's

4028
02:33:33,429 --> 02:33:30,240
not

4029
02:33:36,070 --> 02:33:33,439
enough right you need some other things

4030
02:33:36,870 --> 02:33:36,080
well you throw in this alice and change

4031
02:33:39,510 --> 02:33:36,880
aspect

4032
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:39,520
of it and i don't know if that is an

4033
02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:40,000
error

4034
02:33:46,070 --> 02:33:43,920
kind of mistake

4035
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:46,080
and you were there and you know it was

4036
02:33:50,870 --> 02:33:48,399
sepultura right you know it was

4037
02:33:52,630 --> 02:33:50,880
sabbath you know it was ozzie with zach

4038
02:33:55,429 --> 02:33:52,640
and you know it was the final four

4039
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:55,439
to wrap things up um who was the bass

4040
02:33:58,870 --> 02:33:56,800
player the bass player uh

4041
02:34:01,030 --> 02:33:58,880
randy castillo was that right no randy

4042
02:34:07,830 --> 02:34:01,040
was the drummer

4043
02:34:11,030 --> 02:34:07,840
uh the bass player for ozzy with

4044
02:34:15,670 --> 02:34:11,040
zach then

4045
02:34:20,790 --> 02:34:15,680
it wasn't rudy no no no no no

4046
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:20,800
wow jeez it might have been

4047
02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:24,640
was it robbie oh what's robbie's last

4048
02:34:31,990 --> 02:34:30,550
oh man or was it benches i don't know i

4049
02:34:34,630 --> 02:34:32,000
don't i don't know who uh the bass

4050
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:34,640
player was for rousey in 92.

4051
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:37,359
no i i i couldn't it wasn't bob daisy oh

4052
02:34:41,590 --> 02:34:39,600
i want to say robbie crane was it robbie

4053
02:34:43,750 --> 02:34:41,600
crane

4054
02:34:45,349 --> 02:34:43,760
i i couldn't tell you ah he might have

4055
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:45,359
been playing with vince neil then

4056
02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:48,080
i don't know i don't know you know

4057
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:48,960
ozzy's

4058
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:50,319
you know what you know what's funny

4059
02:34:57,830 --> 02:34:55,680
today ask me who ozzy's guitar player is

4060
02:34:59,030 --> 02:34:57,840
i i couldn't tell you couldn't i i don't

4061
02:35:05,590 --> 02:34:59,040
know

4062
02:35:05,910 --> 02:35:05,600
i'll throw that out to twitter hold on a

4063
02:35:09,190 --> 02:35:05,920
big

4064
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:09,200
sign up there right it said no more

4065
02:35:12,870 --> 02:35:09,760
tours

4066
02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:12,880
i'll be back at the end and i remember

4067
02:35:15,830 --> 02:35:13,600
that i

4068
02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:15,840
remember everything i was out i cleaned

4069
02:35:18,710 --> 02:35:18,160
my i mean we're all in lockdown today

4070
02:35:20,469 --> 02:35:18,720
right

4071
02:35:22,150 --> 02:35:20,479
so i'm cleaning my and here's

4072
02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:22,160
serendipity for you i'm cleaning my

4073
02:35:25,429 --> 02:35:23,840
closet what do i pull out

4074
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:25,439
what do i find in the bottom of the

4075
02:35:28,389 --> 02:35:27,600
closet or the bottom of all the t-shirts

4076
02:35:30,230 --> 02:35:28,399
and

4077
02:35:32,230 --> 02:35:30,240
long underwear well i live in canada

4078
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:32,240
right we've got long underwear up here

4079
02:35:40,309 --> 02:35:36,960
and uh it was my no more tourist shirt

4080
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:40,319
oh yeah see that you've always got to

4081
02:35:47,590 --> 02:35:43,200
accept the duality of the universe

4082
02:35:49,670 --> 02:35:47,600
yep you have to it it comes in twos man

4083
02:35:51,590 --> 02:35:49,680
it comes in twos and it comes in waves

4084
02:35:53,830 --> 02:35:51,600
okay i need to know

4085
02:35:55,429 --> 02:35:53,840
from the fader knots i've got 60 seconds

4086
02:35:59,349 --> 02:35:55,439
before we sign off

4087
02:36:03,030 --> 02:35:59,359
and we've got bob here uh who

4088
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:03,040
is ozzie's current guitar player

4089
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:06,479
rob blast co that's

4090
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:10,240
oh bosco no now no

4091
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:13,359
not now yeah i i think that's wrong

4092
02:36:17,590 --> 02:36:14,399
that's according to

4093
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:17,600
scott who is old blasco yeah but i've

4094
02:36:20,469 --> 02:36:19,200
seen him play with blasko but i don't

4095
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:20,479
know if that's who he's playing with

4096
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:25,600
oh rob was the bass player in 92

4097
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:29,120
oh okay yeah yep see i've got everything

4098
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:30,720
you got me come on bob you know the

4099
02:36:34,550 --> 02:36:32,640
fader knots they're all over this

4100
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:34,560
oh they're on the ball you betcha yeah

4101
02:36:39,750 --> 02:36:37,040
they're so than me that's for sure

4102
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:39,760
so who is who is ozzie's guitar player

4103
02:36:43,670 --> 02:36:40,399
today

4104
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:43,680
that's the question i have no idea

4105
02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:46,800
i have no idea okay we will soon see

4106
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:50,640
let's see i i've gotten it

4107
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:53,120
come on fade or not okay i'm out of time

4108
02:36:55,990 --> 02:36:54,000
hey bob

4109
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:56,000
thank you so much my friend we love you

4110
02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:58,399
give me a go beckley teppy

4111
02:37:01,990 --> 02:37:00,399
go beckley teppy brothers that's what

4112
02:37:03,429 --> 02:37:02,000
i'm talking about great phone call bob

4113
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:03,439
enjoy your weekend we'll see you right

4114
02:37:08,469 --> 02:37:05,040
here on monday

4115
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:08,479
absolutely thank you so much that's a

4116
02:37:13,349 --> 02:37:10,080
real mandela effect

4117
02:37:17,270 --> 02:37:13,359
you know what having having a you know

4118
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:17,280
uh black sabbath uh instead of war pigs

4119
02:37:20,950 --> 02:37:18,960
you know that that'll throw things off

4120
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:20,960
that's a mandela effect

4121
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:23,600
that's kind of what zack wilde is back

4122
02:37:28,150 --> 02:37:25,040
with ozzy

4123
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:28,160
is that right confirm that he will be

4124
02:37:34,710 --> 02:37:31,680
touring alongside ozzy in 2020 part of

4125
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:34,720
the rockers no more tours ii

4126
02:37:39,990 --> 02:37:38,080
farewell tour so zack is back in ozzie's

4127
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:40,000
band that's cool that's worth it

4128
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:42,399
mike inez played bass that's right yeah

4129
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:44,000
it was mike nez

4130
02:37:48,309 --> 02:37:47,280
absolutely thank you tim for that i love

4131
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:48,319
the fader knots

4132
02:37:52,550 --> 02:37:50,160
i love all of you what a great show

4133
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:52,560
tonight all of the phone calls and of

4134
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:54,800
course i got to send out a special thank

4135
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:55,520
you

4136
02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:59,200
to mr john burroughs what an incredible

4137
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:01,680
show and i'll say it one more time

4138
02:38:09,510 --> 02:38:06,000
you fade or not every single one of you

4139
02:38:12,070 --> 02:38:09,520
are spoiled spoiled

4140
02:38:12,630 --> 02:38:12,080
rotten and i wouldn't have it any other

4141
02:38:14,469 --> 02:38:12,640
way

4142
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:14,479
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4143
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:16,640
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4144
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4145
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4146
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4148
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4149
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4150
02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:30,160
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4151
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4152
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:35,439
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4153
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4154
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4155
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4156
02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:42,319
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4157
02:38:44,790 --> 02:38:44,080
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4158
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:44,800
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4159
02:38:48,230 --> 02:38:46,479
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4161
02:38:51,990 --> 02:38:49,520
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4162
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fun amazing weekend

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i know rita and i are and we'll be right

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back here on monday

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with all of you until then everybody be

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safe

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go backly tapping